Daft Punk's Behringer Compressor: Let's Finish This.

that's the only behringer parametric I've ever seen, kenneth

that's the only behringer parametric I've ever seen, kenneth

Well apparently the PEQ 305 was a "New Improved Version", so that means there is another for potential research.

that's the only behringer parametric I've ever seen, kenneth

Well apparently the PEQ 305 was a "New Improved Version", so that means there is another for potential research.

I've tried all my usual Google tricks, but no luck finding any mention of a parametric EQ model older than the PEQ-305. Behringer was founded in 1989, and info on those very first products is scarce.

What are the odds the product was always called the PEQ-305, and the improvements they mentioned were just an mid-cycle update/B-revision that didn't change the product name?

guys, behringer should never make an EQ, never.... their graphics and knock off mackie mixer EQs are so hissy on boost, its not a good thing, there is no way this parametric should be disseminated to the masses

guys, behringer should never make an EQ, never.... their graphics and knock off mackie mixer EQs are so hissy on boost, its not a good thing, there is no way this parametric should be disseminated to the masses

I'm now seeing discussions stating that when Behringer first hit the market, all the units were more or less handmade/assembled in Germany. Prices were only mid-tier relative to rest of market, not bargain-basement. Sellers on Reverb #1 #2 #3 claim their older units from late 80s/early 90s are genuine German-manufactured and not the crappy later units.

There is also talk of the early "red label" units being of respectable quality.

All of this is just internet hearsay at this point... AAAAND, I don't care how crap they were, this is for the good of the database! Other than your Valley People find, I don't think any of us would recommend any of the non-famous/non-classic items on Daft Punk's list.

look, that is true, it was a cottage industry at first but it doesn't change the fact that its noisy prosumer gear.... the china stuff like my neutrons, infinitely better. Daft Punk used a lot of noisy garbage for sure. I'm beginning to suspect that this stuff was what they took out live and that they went to a real studio after their initial demo recording.

I'm beginning to suspect that this stuff was what they took out live and that they went to a real studio after their initial demo recording.

I wouldn't doubt that one bit.

I'm beginning to suspect that this stuff was what they took out live and that they went to a real studio after their initial demo recording.

Behringer as noisy utilities for live-only applications = entirely plausible

Pro studio after initial demos during Homework era = questionable?

https://www.mixonline.com/recording/daft-punk-372628

"When it comes to recording and mixing their music, Daft Punk utilizes a modest setup. “We never have gone to a big studio to do anything,” says de Homem-Christo. “We have a small Mackie 12-channel mixer, and everything is done there by bricolage.”

"When it comes to recording and mixing their music, Daft Punk utilizes a modest setup. “We never have gone to a big studio to do anything,” says de Homem-Christo. “We have a small Mackie 12-channel mixer, and everything is done there by bricolage.”

Maybe that's because they already had Daft House?

ya got me guys... it was just a suspicion.... you can see better gear coming in is all, like that dynamite which is a thoroughly pro piece

it also occurs to me that guys who went out of their way to be anonymous may not be entirely forthcoming about everything... masked men aren't usually known for their honesty

ya got me guys... it was just a suspicion.... you can see better gear coming in is all, like that dynamite which is a thoroughly pro piece

it also occurs to me that guys who went out of their way to be anonymous may not be entirely forthcoming about everything... masked men aren't usually known for their honesty

It was the '90s, saying misleading things to the press re: production or outright-fabricating crazy lies to add to the mystery (and show off your rockstar-like distain for interviews in general) was SOP for more than a few "electronica" artists. So I agree you can't always assume what is being said re: methods in this era is entirely factual... but if what the artist says is generally consistent with what they're saying across multiple interviews, we should go with it until proven false.

It was the '90s, saying misleading things to the press re: production or outright-fabricating crazy lies to add to the mystery (and show off your rockstar-like distain for interviews in general) was SOP for more than a few "electronica" artists. So I agree you can't always assume what is being said re: methods in this era is entirely factual... but if what the artist says is generally consistent with what they're saying across multiple interviews, we should go with it until proven false.

I was just trying to paraphrase the princess bride.

I was just trying to paraphrase the princess bride.

Ha! I totally missed it.... need... more... coffee....

maybe they weren't using the make up gain on their compressors? maybe its just enhancing and not limiting? I love how when i read one of those composer manuals it had a huge section trying to make excuses for the high degree of self noise as if its unavoidable which is clearly not true...

for all I know that parametric EQ is great though, I've seen them but I have no personal experience with them... its hard to want to plug that in at a studio that has cooler stuff and decent desk EQ available for the common tasks, it always seemed like a potential time suck to fiddle with a behringer.

for all I know that parametric EQ is great though, I've seen them but I have no personal experience with them... its hard to want to plug that in at a studio that has cooler stuff and decent desk EQ available for the common tasks, it always seemed like a potential time suck to fiddle with a behringer.

If their primary "desks" were a Mackie MS-1202 and CR-1604, then that Behringer EQ might have been an improvement or at least a contrasting flavor... or maybe just a utility for vinyl sampling or live-only applications as you were speculating. Either way, I aim to get every item in Exhibit A and Exhibit B accounted for in the Equipboard database. I trust that nobody reading any part of Equipboard will misconstrue this quests as an endorsement of this old, low-end gear from anyone involved.

it couldn't have been that important because it was abandoned by the time the dynamite showed up and it wasn't replaced with another EQ... this will be really really hard to track down, tis only on that one gear list and not pictured anywhere

after a lot of digging I've discovered that no one, anywhere knows of a behringer parametric before the 305 and that some say its an okay piece of gear if a little low on headroom for extreme boosting.... pretty transparent if not abused.... the 2000 and 2200 are universally reviled and came later. Apparently the 305 had an option for an output transformer like the dbx160x... so tis an okay piece and I really don't think there was anything before it despite whatever is in the manual to that effect. They may be asserting that a later chinese manufactured version is superior to the german one.... both versions would be dead similar and still use through hole components. If one of you guys can do some more digging that would be great. I'm terrible at this, but I just can't find anything to suggest that there was a parametric Eq predating the 305 and the 2000 is too late leaving this sole contendor.

https://reverb.com/item/38571283-behringer-5-band-parametric-equalizer-peq-305-vintage-2-pieces

this thing looks like it predates the composers and the move to China in 92, behringer wasn't making a whole lot of stuff prior to this, I would be really surprised f this wasn't the jawn.... although the PEQ2000 probably came out with the MDX2000 in 92, it stands to reason they woulda done that at the same time. The compsoer caught on and the PEQ didn't because they probably made it even more cheaply than the 305.... I was hoping that the west germany thing would eb helpful but my memory of the wall coming down when I was in grade school is erroneous and I was finishing jr high, turns out '94, wow

Thanks for the digging Jim! I'm coming to same conclusions through similar findings... that there likely wasn't a parametric eq model that predated the 305, the improvements mentioned in that one-sheet being mid-cycle changes that didn't change the product name. I'm also seeing that it was a decent performer, at least relative to later Behringer gear. I can't find anything on when the PEQ 2000 came out, but your theory that it hit the same time as the MDX 2000 is as good as any I've heard.

EDIT: also, it looks like there were at least 2 racks in those performance that predate the Alive 1997 tour:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/ef8e0c7cbfd395ba067291ff9b1882f2/dbefd2f0f8f5965a-c9/s500x750/6f75e0fbe9bfdff16152467008924e3b6639ad01.png

whew, that is blurry as hell when I blow it up... I feel like there's another piece of alesis gear to the left on top sort of with a display so I think that's a quadraverb we're seeing , the rack on the right is maybe the one we already saw with the patchbay and dynamite at the bottom?