I never recommend plugins but Black Salt's Silencer rules!

Silencer is the ultimate gate for kick, snare and toms! In fact, its more than just another gate, it includes a basic gate but also uses spectral processing to separate desired drum hits from the bleed generated by the rest of the kit.

They say its where cymbals go to die and they aren't kidding. See my detailed review here.

Best 50 clams I've spent in awhile.

You're a tough customer to please, Jim. This is quite an accomplishment.

Completely left-field question unrelated to how this plugin is intended to be used: how much latency does the plugin add?

I'm curious for the sake of a Max for Live thing I was working on. If you tell me this thing introduces no additional latency, then I'm very intrigued... for all the wrong reasons.

It's pretty low latency on my rig, but nothing is zero... or virtually nothing natve. I'll check today when I'm mixing drums :)

Keep in mind it only does its mojo on cymbal bleed. It's a very specific tool for multi-mic live drum mixing.

Right, but it if can remove cymbals without adding any additional samples of latency that your DAW has to compensate for, that is of interest to me. Things like this have traditionally needed their own tiny look-ahead sample buffer to analyze and do their magic, which is fine if you're working with pre-recorded material, but adding to the total system latency your DAW is compensating for means that any VSTi/instrument plugins you are using become that much more sluggish in terms of how they respond to live midi-controller input.

The bump in total system latency is NBD when mixing or sequencing stuff with a mouse, so I doubt any Silencer customers would be hampered by the plugin adding more total latency, but when you live and die by a midi controller triggering plugin instruments, they become a pain.

Cubase pro 12, which has impeccable latency measurement, compensation and reporting says 0 samples latency. I haven't kept up with my avid subscription lately because it's out if fashion with my clients and collaborators... so dont know about protools. Probably fine. Haven't tried it in Harrison yet but I typically gate before I stem to mixbus because the editing is still clunky even in the new version and I have lately come to consider noise/bleed gating to be part of editing/premixing. If I'm also trying to shape a sound or do some creative triggering I use valley or drawmer hardware as part of the mix on inserts, but I seldom remove noise or bleed in analog.

You're exclusively in live, right? How do I get latency reporting in ableton? I don't know it very well. I sho yi old learn the backend better but I hate it for anything outside of midi programming and sample manipulation.

Thank you!

I downloaded the trial. Haven't installed yet because I'll get too distracted from work, but I'm looking forward to checking it out and seeing if I can figure out how they do what they do.

I'm 90% Live, 10% Logic.

Bitwig-interested, Renoise-adjacent.

To see if a plugin in Live adds to the buffer, hover over it's name in the bottom-window area thing:

https://imgur.com/rGs5xn8