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Paul van Dyk & Alex M.O.R.P.H. - We Are

So i've recently fell in love with this great trance track by these two mega producers, but I was curious about one particular element of the track.

There is a Synth in the track that has an incredible amount of panning, its a Modulated Synth that has a Gate on it, but the Pan spreads throughout the entire track.

I've been trying to nail down what it is that they could be using, this is what I've come up with so far.

-Effect or Synth Effect

-Texture Synth with Heavy Modulation/Envelope

-Effect that Pans with Filter

If anyone has any idea of a Synth or an FX VST that can recreate that sort of panning used in this track with what I listed I would greatly appreciate it.

To be more specific, it starts at 1:04 on the track.

Here is a Youtube Link to the actual Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QJ0fZ1EBjM

Any help at all would be appreciated, thank you.

I can't help myself...

IT'S MORPHIN' TIME!

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good one Boom, I seriously laughed at that one....

to th OP, be more specific, this thing is full of blippy, modulating, panning synths.. are you talking about the one that start relatively early and has an early analog subtractive sound or the detuned PWM sound that comes in later? Or do you mean that detuned saw sound that sounds like tis thru a bandpass filter and not a lowpass? That has extreme panning.

If I had to guess saw track has a single delay on it at high volume set to inverse stereo and a good bar of delay time to create the pan, the other panning trance BS is just hand panned (my favorite way to do silly psychedelic panning) or has an autopan effect on it and the crazy stereo spread is an additiaonal effect slapped across the sawy-synth channel, a submix buss or even the whole track during or just prior to mastering! There's even a free vst plugin for this sort of effect, try A1 stereo enhaner (I think that's the name, I am not a huge fan of extreme use of stereo and would mix all in mono if it were socially acceptable)

as for the synths, these are very simple patches to mimic with just about any 2 oscillator analog-style subtractive with PWM and 80s type artchitecture (though, having more than 1 filter mode will be a help to you for a few of the sounds and more than 2 oscillators or maybe a super-saw type of detune knob would be a plus for some of this stuff, but its pretty stereotypical mid90s rave jackassery I grew up with in here, silly but fun! there's probably some FM or wavetable sounds in there if I could gear myself up to listen all the way through at volume)...

the individual tracks do sound pretty heavily compressed or limited (maybe a multiband to be able to adjust the apparent level of diverse frequencies brought forward by the filter sweep, there's lots of ways to go about this though) and there's quite a bit of subtractive EQ on most of the stuff to keep it all sitting in its own frequency range even as it modulates... anyway, nothing too impressive here, not reinventing the techno wheel, but spinning it competently. But that's how you become and stay a superstar DJ/producer/whatever-they-call-it.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Yeah It's the one with extreme panning.

And yes what they have done isn't anything extremely new, but it just has such a wholesome curve all around the sound that they have, and it just covers basically everywhere, and wanted to try it out on a track of my own.

I'll have to try some of the methods you suggested and see how far I get, I have quite a few different VST synths so i'll give it a shot, and try that free Plugin.

Thanks a lot!

yeah, no prob... if you are going all software I would try using some vintage emulation like the free OB-X VST as I think the bandpass and saws will do that sound very easily (though maybe something designed to do JP8000 supersaws will be even better, there's a lot of options in that department, but I like the oberheim emulation's bandpass filter A LOT, really classic)... a sequential circuits emulation might get you there too, the prophet synths had that cutting quality and a good emulation thru some judicious EQ might create the sound you want.... maybe even an FM synth with a filter section and multiple envelope generators as long as you stay conservative with any modulation between oscillators.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp