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Triggers/clock

For those of us who use analog triggers and clock, how is everyone generating, dividing, multiplying and distributing their v-trig pulses? What's your master? Anyone else have old synths with s-trig? My poly6 arpeggiator is the bane of my existence right now.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

All my special little cables and converters are in storage boxes, and this question reminds me why I should be happy about that. lol.

What source(s) do you ultimately want to drive your PolySix with?

GEAR:
  • Roland TR-808 Rhythm Composer
  • Roland SH-101
  • Roland TR-909 Rhythm Composer

Drum triggers. Right now I'm using an sq1 with the gate set to negative and the duty cycle set short which is fine when we're using drum machines, I just slave to the master... but with live drums I can only use drum triggers with my v trig synths or the guy has to play to a click. I think i could build something passive with an npn transistor and a diode into a 1/4" ts jack to convert to s trig but I'm not so confident of the durability. If I buy a box and do it on vero board with jacks it costs money and I was wondering if there's something on the market I'm unaware of that'll be about the same cost without the hassle. Maybe an attenuvertor? I dunno.

The obvious solution is to use my juno but for trash godz everyone really digs the poly6. Its swampy and rude. Way more their sound. It's really cool to lock a synth to the kick and just trigger note or chord changes as needed while playing other instruments. The project evolved heavily while I was doing other things and I'm struggling to keep up now that I'm sitting in regularly again.

Maybe if I use the triggers as click for the sq1?

I'm also interested in dividing clock down to trigger an sq1 even slower than the 1 pulse per step lowest resolution to stretch a simple sequence for bars without resorting to multiple patterns in a more complicated sequencer. I need stream lined live performance tools lately. Really streamlined. Jamming with sequencers can be difficult when you're dealing with Rick players as well as other nerds.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

How would you ultimately want the whole system to be driven by your drummer's tempo/live-playing?

Do you already have a Pintech/DDrum type piezo trigger out from their kick?.. or do you need something digital that can pull a continuous live tempo or tap tempo reading off of their playing?

The Eurorack world would love to sell you a lunchbox case with like 2-3 modules to convert, divide down, etc... but we both know their ultimate goal is to alienate you from your bandmates so you spend all your time dreaming about plugging itty-bitty tiny colored cables into itty-bitty sockets that are too close to all the other knobs and sockets.

GEAR:
  • Roland TR-808 Rhythm Composer
  • Roland SH-101
  • Roland TR-909 Rhythm Composer

Yeah I own triggers and have used them to trigger v-trig gear. A little hard compression and a big gain boost helps. Not a pr0blem for me.

I had such a bad time with clocking between a guy's elektron gear, my friend's drum kat and squarp pyramid rig to my analog sequencers , circuit mono and polysix last friday I'm not even worried about drum trigsright now. All it takes is someone upstream of me to fuck up their settings or get out of one piece's tempo range and things get wonky.

I'm just resigning myself to the headache with trash godz. If something's going sideways I just gave to turn it all off for that jam and go freehand on 1 or 2 keybeds. Its encouraging me to actually practice synthesizer playing this week.

Sometimes everything works and sometimes it doesn't. Midi filters and start stop messages are a bitch compared to analog pulses. S trig synths are a pain. It is what it is. Sometimes you can only do what you can do without pouring more time and money in.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

The Eurorack world would love to sell you a lunchbox case with like 2-3 modules to convert, divide down, etc... but we both know their ultimate goal is to alienate you from your bandmates so you spend all your time dreaming about plugging itty-bitty tiny colored cables into itty-bitty sockets that are too close to all the other knobs and sockets.

THIS. Besides the expense I stay away from eurorack because it's such a insular approach. We have 2 guys who are already isolated islands: the groove box guy and the circuit bending eurorack processing fx pedal sound mulching guy. The last 2 weeks I've been the only person providing a musical anchor. Even with guitar players you tend to get a lot of dick waving or 1 or 2 chord funk stabs and not much else. If you pull me away to play with patch cables beyond a modest semi modular like my microvolt it's going to descend into disorganized noise very quickly. When I'm focused on adding music then the guitar players make more sense, mike gets his sax and riffs off of the 0phrases I out out there and it gets beyond throbbing gristle.

And the rabbit hole of new module expense takes budget away from acquiring and maintaining my vast collection of vintage polysynths, which are my true love. And processors.

I've been really deep diving my sony mu-r201 lately and I need more if them. I think now that I've spent time with the halls I no longer lust after a giant lexi 224. When I first bought one it was for the excellent true stereo early reflection engine and it served me well in a few mixes, but the large halls as it turns out shame every big name processor I've ever used all in 1u with an easy interface, no LARC required. The built in analog stereo eq doesn't hurt. 3 band eq is a pretty next level feature for a reverb/delay. There's a mind blowing midi syncable pattern delay with a little 80s digital grit too that I'm just starting to dig into. Hard to believe sony put this beast out in the mid 80s. When I say true stereo i mean true stereo. The spread feature injects tiny delays woth what sounds like some all passing and pitching from the opposite channels on either side and it just makes my ears feel so good. Snatch one up before people get hip to them. They're inexpensive right now despite having been a real high end product when released. No plugin can touch a sony.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp