need help in mixing this song

https://instaud.io/3OjZ/delete/3a14c1cbcc4fe564da6ff0d5748227f1f86fec2f

Hey people, I need help in mixing this song. Please post your valuable suggestions. Thanks

that's a bad link, it says I can play it from here but it also gives me the option to delete it and you probably don't want me to do that...

it sounds better than anything you've done prior. I would turn the vocal up personally, the piano sounds really milquetoast so I would turn that down... I think you should go through your takes and find some better chorus vocals to fly in... I would probably work on my bussing to get the song to glue together better, none of it exists in the same place, its very disconnected and that's not the spirit of the song. its a pretty sparse arrangement too, its like if Joy Division decided to do a hymn. But without changing what's there I would say to fin better chorus takes, the ones you have are a bit flat and they also don't provide any emotional lift out of the verse, they aren't conveying that god is awesome at all. No point in dickering with the vocal level or top end until you have takes that sound good and communicate the lyrics unprocessed. Decide what kind of interpretation this is and then let all the elements reflect that from the performances to the mix and if you're not going to do that, don't bother to do anything.

EDIT: When you get a good vocal take comped try using like a pultec style plugin or the popular MAAG Eq plugin to give it some 'air' at 12 to 14k... personally I like the bottom of a bass guitar sound to sit below the bottom of the ick drum unless its a thumping dance track, and even then I might have the fundamental thud of the kick more like 100hz and the bass like at 80ish but the kick could have some sub 100 energy. I think your bass might benefit from a cut somewhere around 300-800hz. There's room for a littlre more beater click on the kick, if the sample doesn't have any try layering something up that does,. Masking will gell the 2 sounds together. Compress them together using RMS compression with carefully adjusted time cosntants to get them to really gel as one sound. The sample with beater click could be heavily high passed. I would add some 300 or 400hz to the snare and maybe cut a little at 3k. I would cut a bit of 3k out of the piano unless that made it sound hollow. I would also try compressing the shit out of the piano since its so boring.... maybe distort it, then throw a mdualted echo after it into some reverb where ahrdly any dry echo hits 2bus but there's a tone into the reverb. I would hide some gated verb under the snare to extend it. Not 80s gated reverb, but still gated or a non-lin patch. I would give it enough predelay that it didn't muddy the attack. I might get some verb on the beater click, but not the low end of the kick. I would probably mute the drums at times too... I might try ADT on the vocal to smooth out the unpleasant parts. The artificial double I would autotuned since the pitch on the vocals is wobbly. I would pan them out like 15% and roll some top off the double, maybe delay it a few ms too. Izotope's free doubler is a good place to start that process. Then I would pour a glass of wine and listen to it while I did other things and see if anything I did made sense with what the song is saying. Right now you have a pitchy,lifeless vocal and a simple drum apttern consisting of a dull thud and a lifeless clicking noise. I would really work on those elements first and then think about the tonal instruments alter starting with bass.

Hey Jim, good to see you after a long time. Thanks for the suggestions. I'll work on them and get back.

if this is your performance and not someone else's, try to divorce yourself from it as music as you start the mix.... loop a smallsection and just listen to the sonics, not the song, and dial them in, get a rough balance, then back off, lsiten to the song for eprspective and think about how it all works as a song. Listeners don't care about how much midrange your snare has, but they do care that the mix matches theitnent of the song, so as the whole thing comes together and you start moving faders you'll want to make those decisions absed on the section of the song you're in and how well you're putting it over to the lsitener. Having the individual elements sounding good divorced from the context of the tune will make this easier. I suually start with kick and bass, then add snare, then vocal, ge tit half way, mute vocal, bring up other elements one at a time and brng the vocal back in to see if there's a pocket for it, then fine tune it. All the while I'm working with some sensible busses either a drums/percussion, instruments and vocals setup, a High, low, mid, dry Brauer setup (which protools doesn't do so well, try harrisom mixbus) or a rhythm section, ambience, everything else 3 to 4 bus arrangement... there's gentle comrpessionon eahc bus apart from the dry in the Brauer setup (look it up)... anyway, good luck, it takes awhile to grok this

y'know, I'm not doing anything important this weekend until father's day on sunday where I'lla ccept the homage of my ungrateful son, if you want to bounce your song down to like a manageable package of 24bit 48k stems (with all the effects off and the faders etc zeroed) and then FTP it somewhere or put it on google drive I could point a camera at the screen and take you through an in the box mix a couple ways with your music and send you the video and the finished mix. I'm kinda bored. Bassist in the new band is on vacation with the wife and kids, need to do some music.

seems like good idea :)

so you want to print a package of stems, 24bit, 44.1 or 48k sample rate because I don't want it to take me forever to download... zero everythign and disable ALL plugins. Make sure the track names make sense so i ca import and set up quick. If you can print a MIDI file for the drums it'll speed up the process of adding any additional samples which I may need to do since this is a modern production and the recorded soudns may not have what we need frequency-wise (soudns like 808 kick or soemthing, very limited). I rpefer to use google drive but I cna do whatever. If you do google drive share it with [email protected]. I have a father's day thing at my kid's school and then I'm just puttering around the house today.

sure, I'm on it. I'll upload the files and keep them ready.

stems, so print from protools (or whatever you use) as .wav filesfrom beginning to end of the song whether there's sound or not so they all line up at the beginning in my DAW. Just do 24bit 44.1, this is enducational we don't need mad sound quality. I'll import them and set up some of my regular bussing and then make some quick videos

I shared the zip file to your mail. It's about 530MB, let me know if there's any trouble. Edit: I used FL Studio to make this mix.

530MB, that's why i said CD quality 44.1... at 96k or higher it woudla been a nightmare for us! its downlaoding, then I'll see if it flies into Mixbus okay and I'll set up my tmeplate and get my tablet to video some shit.

I used 48k. Zip file is around 220MB so downloading would take less time. When you extract it. It will be 530MB

you seriously have your kick and snare on 1 track. I guess I have to tediously edit them apart.

EDIT:

fixed it with a gate, just treated it like live drum bleed, I'll probably just print that to save CPU

are any of these split stereo tracks actually IN stereo? they seem to be the same on each side when I pan them out so why have stereo? 2 identical mono tracks ins tereo stay mono when panned out

I would generally have isolated drums like this on separate tracks so i can balance them sicne there isn't a live drummer balancing himself into some overheads and room microphones, but I'll do my best with this

I used FPC for drums so they are in same pattern. It's a bit of pain but I can send separate audio files if you want. Sorry I forgot to select mono while exporting. The default is stereo in FL. . Do you want all the toms to be in separate tracks too?

FL doesn't like mono, no.... FPC is a pain.... I want everything on tis own trakc or here's what you can do; reprint the drums as a stereo wave file with all the panning built in and see if you can just export me kick and snare on their own mono track. You can leave the kick and snare in the stereo track, just turn them down 3dB within FPC and I'll treat the whole thing like a pair of drum voerheads. Might be cool.

I exported kick and snare to separate tracks, hats and cymbals are on the same track. 4 Toms are in same track.

that works

Sent you the files.