What we do about the Rhodes Brand ??

I did notice under Rhodes there is a lot to find , but no real Rhodes Brand ... There are "Fender Rhodes", "Rhodes Rhodes" and just "Rhodes" , "ARP Rhodes" , "Rhodes (KSR)" .... And it is Piling Up. So what we gone do ? These Companies are Insane , even when we would Add just a Sub-Brand to the Board right under Brand , some got even 3 or 4 Brands running, so would not make much sense , I think.

But let me know , so I can Brand the Rhodes MK-8 Piano and I might Brand the others too , when I got time.

I checked with two (2) AI chatbots. Both seem to confirm that there have been three (3) parent companies for the "Rhodes" brand: Fender, Rhodes Music Group, and Roland.

That seems to me as good a place as any to start.

I had noticed that too and tried to clean it up a little since some were mislabeled. I think the oldest and current versions should be under the same Rhodes brand, but the versions such as ARP and Roland should stay under their respective brands if that makes sense. When I did try to add the brand it didn’t let me (I’m assuming since I’m not a Mod)

There are also a ton of Rhodes duplicates, the ones to keep usually have the production years in parentheses.

Yes , I think so too, so we do ...

1. "Rhodes Music Group" as Brand and get "Rhodes Rhodes" off the Website ?

2. We have already "Fender" with Rhodes in Name, do we keep this ? Or do we name another brand make it "Fender Rhodes"

3. And then we need another Brand "Roland Rhodes" or Just "Roland" we got already where Rhodes is just add to the name , like we got on "Fender" Rhodes ?

4. And then I found also "Rhodes Amplification" = "KSR Amp Rhodes " as Brand , or just "KSR Amp" we got already and Rhodes in the Name ?

5. And then there is the "ARP" Chroma what was later the "Rhodes" Chroma because ARP was gone, hard to say people got the origin "ARP" Chroma do for sure value their Chroma more and it is higher in the Price and later we got then the "Rhodes" Chroma what is the same Item , but under a different brand and different Price. Do make the Chroma Piano 1 Item and under what Brand ? Or do we make it 2 different Items like Rhodes Chroma and ARP Chroma ?

Hehehe, I am really besieged with all the Rhodes Posibilities. And then we need to sort them all into the right Brands, when they are not. After that , Users might get it right, and might not and we have to correct into the right Brand. Also hard for Users might be ... Reissure Versions , that are not dublicates , got the exact same Name , but are different to the origin vintage ones.

When we got this , we will find then better the dublicates and also it is not Piling Up , one day and we have to brand or re-brand 1000s of Rhodes Sort of Items, when we do not brand them and let it go, I think.

Yes its hard to get by with such conflicts, they will always stay ,... there are always Users on equipboard do exactly know what Rhodes , ESP ... they got , if it is a Rhodes under Fender or just a reissure and so on ... and people do not know and just put down what is writen there. Both Users do not wrong , it is just an ongoing conflict which will stay , because of the fact that there is sometimes more to it, then just a brand and company , it is also history and development and so on ....

also it is hard to find then for shop links and Auto Video Adds and so on , because there is always this conflict with the exact Brand and Name , what is mostly not wrong , it is just there is a lot of Names and Branding possible would be right ...

Thanks for trying to keep it tamed and in the right direction.

Yea Names which are very similar can not been done , we got this also with artist names and so on ... you can then not create it. there is also a Brand just Rode and not Rhodes , so might not function to add just Rhodes in conflict with Rode.

Yea I would also say we keep the Brands like Fender , Roland , KSR Amp, ARP and just add there Rhodes in the Name .. makes the most sense and the Rest we do "Rhodes Music Group" then but not "Rhodes Rhodes" , Rhodes alone maybe ? , but can be a conflict with Rode then ?

Maybe we will create a 2nd Brand , like Sub-Brand , so we can Brand them all 2 times when they got 2 Brands like Fender and Squier at the same time and when its an USA Fender you just do Brand it Fender , same on ESP , Rhodes and so on , but some got even more then just 2 Brands this will then also no help there. But I would not do Company and Brand, because , some brands a lot of people do not know to what company they belong , some will never know , because its kinda secret of the company what brand they are running and hard to find out, some will always say no my Guitar says its an Edwards Not ESP , others say its of course an ESP just the Edwards Brand of it.

Yeah, Rhodes isn't precisely a brand but a sound, heh

Edit: I'll elaborate.

The Chroma and Chroma Polaris polysynths were Rhodes branded when fender acquired ARP but no one is expecting a synth when they say "let's rent a Rhodes for this track."

It's weird. The Rhodes electric piano concept is older than fender's involvement. You can Google the Rhodes. It goes way back. I guess the inventor just didn't want the burden of manufacturing them . But there's other keyboard instruments called Rhodes by fender or roland that, like the chroma, aren't electro mechanical instruments and to me they're not really Rhodes keyboards. They're cool but no one would think they're a Rhodes despite the branding.

I prefer the wurli a100 anyway. Even when I had a Rhodes I couldn't get on with it. Although my soundboard needed repair.

Reminds me, we have Hammond and Leslie on here separate, which has been hurting my brain to figure out which are Hammond or Leslie branded or if they should be combined. I think a good feature would be sub brands or even a marker that a piece of gear was born out a collaboration imo.

Leslie is it's own brand. Its named after its inventor Donald Leslie. He designed it in the 30s to create what he thought was a pipe organ like sound for theaters (this was silent movie days) equipped with early hammond tonewheel organs as he felt the normal amplified sound fell short. He brought the design to Hammond and they turned him down. He marketed it himself instead as an add on for any electronic organ starting in 1941. Hammond had their own electromechanical vibrato, the scanner in direct competition. The Leslie won. Eventually CBS acquired Leslie.this was when the owned fender, hence the fender branded vibratone cabinet for guitar that was made by Leslie. In 1980 Suzuki bought Leslie from CBS and also acquired Hammond. Prior to that they were separate brands with a long colorful feud which is detailed on wikipedia. It was NOT a collaboration. The weird hammond connector that makes post war Leslies guitar-unfriendly was designed and implemented specifically to make the Leslie unable to interface with a b3! There were Leslies for wurlies, conns and baldwins etc. When I was cleaning out my best friend's studio after he got brain cancer I found a tube powered leslie with a stock quarter inch input that must be 70 ir 80 years old. It either predated the hammond connector change or was meant to work with other brands of organ.

While hammond and leslie have been sister brands for 45 years now, for the prior 40-50 years they were completely separate.

Crazy, I had no idea about the feud, but I am a casual appreciator of Leslie speakers and Hammonds. I guess I'll stick with the pedal history for now and read up on the Organ brands.

I'm a bit of a gear historian, but even I don't know everything. It would be impossible to memorize all this stuff.