a giant thread about OD, Distortion and Fuzz!

Jenson?

I never knew that Vox have tons of midrange, gunna have to decide between an ac15c2 and a Marshall DSL40c I reckon. I hate trying to choose a amp. I think I'm going to go for a ac15 but I dunno

the way the top boost is wired, if you turn both treble and bass down to zero you get a giant mid-boost on top of what's already a pretty mid-heavy sound with the controls at noon, the amps are already mid-rangey for various other reasons involving the power section too... marshalls are actually less midrangey clean than a vox, they start to get really mid-focused when you get them overloading (at which point anyone without ear plugs has gotten a nose bleed and passed out and instead of playing you should be going through their pockets).... but yeah, the vox 'normal channel is HELLA mid-rangey in the tweed deluxe and supro sense, even if it has a bright switch to engage to add more treble and cut some mud, STILL MIDRANGEY from clean to scream

the vox doesn't seem that midrangey till you play them for awhile against guys with fenders and such.... totally different EQ curve, you need to work to get them to sound scooped with super extreme control settings, voxes don't sound the way people really think they do, there's a lot of misconceptions based on Beatles LPs and guys playing them in stores at 1 or 2.... and the fact that the custom classic is not voiced like a real ac30 in ay way and is even less like a legitimate ac15

It's not very clear, but it looks like a "Jansun"?

take the back panel off so you can fucking see it

Most likely

looked it up and its a Jensen, looks like a C10R or Q reissue or similar, maybe its more of a MOD series thing only in a 10" with a 'special design' sticker on the back, which would put it in the celestion H magnet camp. If it sounds good don't stress. I'm not sure what I would tell you to put in that laney even if you had unlimited resources.... 1x10's are tricky

we are so off topic

Right since, I'm getting rid of my horrendous OD, modulation pedal, and amp I could to do with an OD, and a DS. I was looking at those dual tone city things, do you know if any of them have the ability to do really heavy distortion as well, as a OD, at the same time, using the boost function? The soldano one might, but I'm not driving to bloody Guildford just to test them out.

the bogner stuff works really well at this, and each one has 2 gain structures/voicings as well as a boost fnction that changes gain and output via a footswitch so you could use it as a lead boost, gain boost or both... however, none of the bogner pedals allow you to change gain/voicing on a footswitch

You know, I'd been hearing a lot about this Deucetone Rat which has all the Rats in a dual drive pedal. Tried it? I'm sure they may have cleaned up the sound a bit.

Also, those rats are the subject of many modifications. JHS has their own, sounds really nice.

I have been missing the rat I used to have and was thinking of building one. They are simple enough and then it would be a fun modplatform like the fuzzface I made.

I think with the rat a lot depends what amp and guitar you are using it with.

I found my early 80s rat really homogenized things guitar wise for me as long as I was willing to adjust the gain and filter a smidge when switching between fenders and gibsons. it was a definite AC30 type pedal for me. One of the few OD/distortions I could really get into through a vox. It sounded silly through my marshalls and acted more like a refined fuzz through my BF fender amps. Its more amp dependent than guitar dependent to me. It really interacts with a clean amp in a way that seems to color the rat's response in a way that the 3 controls won't compensate for.

necro-post!

I have 2 more really nice dirt boxes to reports on:

1) TC electronic ND1 Nova Drive - sadly discontinued! This pedals is an all analog 2 in 1, kinda like the visual sound Jekyll/Hyde... but with digital encoders for knobs to allow preset saving, also has a switchable buffer, MIDI in for remote preset changes and assigning expression pedals to knob functions. The footswitches can be configured a few different ways (traditional independent switches, either/or/off switching and preset mode which allows banks of 2 presets without an external MIDI controller or the G Switch). The 2 sides can also be routed serially with either side as the 1st effect OR in parallel! The OD is a tubescreamer variant. It reminds me a lot of the Voodoo lab sparkle drive featuring flatter midrange than a TS9 as well as a clean blend. The distortion side is a rat with a treble and bass tonestack and it sounds REALLY good. Because it doesn't have the crazy filter control its hard to dial in EVERY 80s Rat sound, but it hits the main tones as well as being capable of a lot more. Works well as a tough, brit sounding OD with the gain down too. Tone controls make it easy as heck to mate to any rig. My favorite way to use this pedal is with both sides engaged in parallel to blend a really complex overdrive tuned to add dirt to specific frequencies. It works better boosting a tube amp on the edge of breakup than ANY OTHER DIRT BOX I HAVE OWNED, though you really have to play with the parallel setting to get the most out of it as a lower gain drive. The preset storage is so awesome when making complex patches using both sides of the pedal. Its also nice to be able to recall a preset and retune the bass and output to suit different guitars and restore to another preset location. This is the best dirt box I have ever owned. Taken indivivually both sides are pretty decent, but when used together with all the routing and preset capabilities it schools simpler dirt machines. All the functions but the preset storage are pretty intuitive. Programming complex drive textures is fast and fun and the ability to save them means you can just forget about it all and play when its time to jam.

Behringer super fuzz.... sounds shockingly like a vintage univox with the addition of treble and bass controls. Surprisingly low self noise. Box is shitty, but hey, it was 20 bucks. The tone is RIGHT THERE. I want to be a cork sniffer, but I can't in this instance, the Behringer super fuzz sounds THAT GOOD.

Boss SD-1: Favorite distortion. Ever. Period. (For guitar, at least.) Nice voicing live, wrecks small venues.

Boss DS-1: Really Really Good. Period. (In a Nirvana cover band, at least.) Buzzsaw-ish, but not terribly so- fun in an overbearing way.

Ibanez TS-9: I broke it. Must've been a bad one, it was a reissue.

EHX Big Muff Pi: Best bass distortion. Really thick, good response all around, but best midrange distortion i've hipeard on a bass pedal.

Vox Cooltron Bulldog Distortion, insanely good true valve distortion but rather rare and unpopular, it has 2 channels, channel 1 is a vintage voiced with an almost held back feel like it wants to break loose but is being held back and is perfect for a distorted rhythm or a lead tone that you need an edge of break up type sound, channel 2 is like its Jekyll its a modern distortion sound thats very very very high output and can get screechy at times thats good for wanting a lot of sustain and power my only gripe is his pedal has such high treble it gets ear splitting highs on the high gain channel

ocd, where do i start this pedal for me os what good overdrive should be it covers a lot of ground and you can get some gnarly drive out of it and its got plenty of low end to satisfy what the bulldog can't.

on a tangent I'm kinda starting to play more new wave type music what would be a good drive for that, I'm thinking i may get a tube screamer or rat, but I'm open to options and I also like boutique pedals

we just necrobumped the shit out of this thread.

i said "we" so it doesn't look like it's my fault and mine alone.

we just necrobumped the shit out of this thread.

OH SHIT GUESS I NEED TO CLOSE YOUR ACCOUNT ASDFL:DSNF:KLSD

Lol Don't even worry about it.

umm no, a valve or tube requires way more voltage to operate at audio spec than even a wall wart can muster, its starved plate design.... if you lie it fine, but don't pitch it as something its not