BOSS MD-2

Opinions? The guitarists want them. I like them.

sounds ok actually. I realised that I want a distortion pedal again a while ago. I have technically got fuzz and overdrives currently, and have been thinking triple wreck, but haven't decided on anything yet. I watched a shootout between the MD2 and a behringer.... pretty close sounding ish

yeah, they also looked at the metal zone. I had to talk them down.

What is your stuff sounding similar to?

okay, if you want an idea tone-wise listen to "Drown With The Monster" by White Lung.

Mostly we cover any punk/pop punk from the last 20 years, and when I demo'd the pedal I could get all the tones we needed, from early Fall Out Boy to Basket Case to NOFX to Slipknot to even a Sabbath-esque distortion.

Edit: It isn't the best for the last two, but it will do for the rest. We don't play Slipknot either, that was just me driving the pedal's capabilities.

Terry, the big muff is NOT a fuzz, its an extreme distortion

for punk start with a gunned tube amp and a little clean or dirty boost.... by dirty boost I mean a tubescreamer, SD1 or klon with the gain way down and the output cranked

there's the first roadblock- none of us have the money for tubes. the second is that we have some heavier stuff. using the amp settings we have, we can dial in a 1977 type tone. for newer, more distorted stuff, we have nothing, and Fender amp gain is garbage.

work harder, save money... buy a plexi RI or an 800 just to try the classic route

man up, cut costs and put all your money ito gear....e ventually its self funding but it requires a great deal of self-denial that your generation seems to be afraid of... all you kids say the same things but man, I did without cable, internet, furniture, a car etc and invested ing ear between 1998 and 2004

The real trick for musicians getting better gear is to always trade up. I have a friend who started out with a cheap Jackson guitar and a Line 6 amp. Over time, He's acquired some rare Charvels, Hernandezes, and had a multitude of guitars. He didn't come into cash for it all. He bought items that were under market price and traded those items for higher end products that he wanted. Even if it meant him only playing on it for a month or two before sending it away again.

props to you then.

my lead guitarist is already scraping by, and my rhythm guitarist is my roommate.

you guys need to eat less than twice a day, sleep on the floor (2+ band members to a bedroom), own only 2 pairs of boxers and 2 or 3 pairs of fucked up, holey socks.... just pay your dues like the rest of us did. Stop whining. I've been homeless sleeping on aprk benches.

aight. i feel. thanks for the advice.

I would have slept with my gear.

dude, Terry, I know you musta lived at your rehearsal space illegally when you were in your 20s right? I know I did!

backs of cars... an hour or two in green rooms. I am a bit of an anti sleeper anyway.

Fender amp gain is garbage.

solid state amp gain is garbage... high gain stuff didn't sued to be fender's thing even in tubes, but I gotta admit they've gotten a lot better at it. At first it was just some custom shop amps that had nice dirt channels, but now you can go buy a supersonic for a few hundred bucks and get a pretty passable fender clean and a nice dirt channel in one amp that looks like a fender oughta look. So fenders not being good for dirt? not so true anymore.

I hate to say this because its so against my ethos, but have you guys considered going with some obsolete modelling system like the POD HD that has been replaced by Helix? They sound pretty passable and probably a world better than what you're using and you can kidna cerate a tone for every tune and recall them on the fly during your set like I do with my complicated analog MIDI setup. I'll bet you could score a couple HD300 floorboards for a couple hundred each. Then you would wanna disable the cabinet mdoelling but plug the output into the FX loop input of your practice amp to bypass the toen controls and stuff and just get a neutral sound with plenty of headroom (get where I'm going with this? taking it to 11). You could have each of their tones have a boosted version for when they wanna step up the volume and sue all of their amp/speaker's headroom but otherwise they could have the pPOD output at like 8 on a given patch so they have some space to make it louder as you described in your other thread.

Terry, the big muff is NOT a fuzz, its an extreme distortion

That's why I wrote technically. It is not bright and crisp enough for me to classify it as a distortion. The Muff sits alone in it's own private genre... explaining why when Metal guys use a thousand pedals and OD guys have a million to choose from, must Muff guys will have such a uniquely identifiable sound.

backs of cars... an hour or two in green rooms. I am a bit of an anti sleeper anyway.

I was too when I was in my early 20s, then I became one of those 'army ranger' type sleepers like you describe who needs sleep but can get it anywhere at any time of day, like in the van, mid-day on the way to the next show... now I'm old and 'normal'

listened to "Drown With The Monster" by White Lung. Not bad, reminiscent of DK's... pretty minimalist. Drummer is tight, bass player looks like the mum and is as sloppy as one. Guitarist hates his gear.

Fender silverface amp. Roland Jazz Chorus 120. Either turned on their sides or facing back of stage... there are issues here...

Fender Jaguar Special, gaffed neck pickup... later upgraded to normal jag. Had just a couple of pedals at first, expanded, got a board and runs a Behringer fcb1010 and a whole whack of pedals... check their live clips... any dirt comes from boxes, unless it is purely volume roll off, which I doubt from someone who gaffs pickups!