Decay After Pedal Shut Off

So, I noticed some delays and reverbs will continue to affect the sound before dying out, while others immediately cut as soon as the pedal is shut off.

What exactly causes this?

So, I noticed some delays and reverbs will continue to affect the sound before dying out, while others immediately cut as soon as the pedal is shut off.

What exactly causes this?

true bypass.... if a pedal has a hard mechanical bypassthe effects is routed to ground when you turn it off, the effect is still producing repeats but only direct signal is being routed to your amp.... buffered pedals can decay all day, its called spill over or trails

Oops, forgot to reply to this. How can I modify a pedal to do this?

with great difficulty.... if there's space for another small board in the box you could construct a buffer and if you integrate with the existing circuit correctly the sound will decay when he effect is disengaged.... if the pedal is buffered but the buffer is not integrated with the effect to allow spill over then you could get a schematic and compare it to a reverb or delay that does allow the trails to spill over and attempt to mod your pedal.... again, when you are getting all DIY you ask general questions without telling anyone what specific guitar or pedal you wish to modify so you get general answers that will not help you tackle your project effectively

regardless, this is a big project for a beginner.... I don't think I would bother personally, I would just trade the offending pedal in for something that did what I wanted in stock form

Oh, sorry, I keep forgetting.

It's the Digitech Hardwire Reverb. Very nice pedal, fantastic sound, doesn't decay.

Edit: I tried opening it but I need a smaller allen key. I'll have to get it later.

they call that series 'hardwire' because the marketing gimmick IS the true bypass (digitech/DOD always had 80s boss style buffered bypass or 70s MXR tone-sucking non-mechanical, non-buffered bypass until this new series)... fucking with that pedal to buffer the reverb trail will defeat the purpose of owning it and obliterate its resale value, trade it for the new Boss reverb, people love the new RV pedal and it is certainly buffered with decay spill over, that's Boss' thing

I would, but I love this pedal so much that I probably wouldn't want to resell it. My friend in the band has an RV-5, and I always envy him because that thing decays so well, but it could never reverberate like the Ambient can... My ears heard a hall reverb on nearly all settings of the RV-5 including the plate which sounds so wonderful on the Ambient.

Unfortunately, you're still right about resale value... I got this for $120 and only later found out I had just bought a brand new pedal for $60 under the retail. B & H must've been hosting a special discount I guess.

I still have my heart set out on modding this thing, but resale value seems to be a more important for long-term.

I think those have a switch inside for switching between true bypass and buffered bypass, some hardwire pedals do. take the boss style pedal thing off and check, if not open it up and see if theres a switch inside

its a digital effect, it will become obsolete, but obsolete reverbs tend to garner cult followings.... if you decide to upgrade you will likely be able to fund the new purchase by selling the digitech to someone who wants the true bypass feature

if you mod it you have closed the door on a trade-up.... have you tried any other digital reverb pedals with multiple voices and the option to have the decay spillover? there must be something that has the ambience you are seeking.... also, try an RV6, its brand new, it might have more differentiation between sounds than the RV5.... personally I am a TC and Lexicon guy when it comes to digital reverb

I think those have a switch inside for switching between true bypass and buffered bypass, some hardwire pedals do. take the boss style pedal thing off and check, if not open it up and see if theres a switch inside

there ya go.... do you have the manual? If not:

http://rdn.harmanpro.com/product_documents/documents/1804_1389380994/Supernatural_Manual_5020843-B_original.pdf

http://rdn.harmanpro.com/product_documents/documents/277_1349992765/RV-7_Manual_5024339-B_original.pdf

Well, the RV-6 is $150, I also found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Boss-RV-3-Digital-Reverb-Delay-Guitar-Effects-Pedal-PD-6573-/281806367423

I was kinda obsessed with this because of the delay and reverb combo, and a lot of people say this is such a good pedal, AND Explosions in the Sky uses it.

Liam, hold on a sec, I'll go check right now.

The RV-3 is a neat pedal if you are into a big cloud of ambiance around your playing.

Precisely.

I found the proper allen key. Hold on a few while I open this baby up.

Edit: I opened it. Found one chip that's covering the whole thing, can't really pull it off. I don't see any switch :(

WAIT, YOU'RE RIGHT!!!

http://rdn.harmanpro.com/product_documents/documents/1804_1389380994/Supernatural_Manual_5020843-B_original.pdf

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that's why they bother to write manuals for apparently simple guitar pedals.....

always consult the manual, if that fails you google search for the schematic

Yes, but this was amongst the first pedals I bought... that was a year and a half ago when I knew nothing of guitar. I'm not surprised I overlooked this detail, and I just fixed it now. Sounds fantastic.

what's funny is we have a full page for this.... I didn't think to ask you if you read the manual right away and I should have even before you told me what pedal you were talking about

Haha, well most people skip manuals to go right to the pedal. The only thing I remember from reading the manual before was the settings on it but I must've skipped all the technical information.

This'll serve as a lesson for me.

I only knew this because I love those hardwire pedals! really nice sounding. I have the Tube Overdrive and it sound immense, I have the Valve Distortion on its way too, can't wait! Its a good idea to have a true/buffered bypass option on the Delay and Reverb pedals.

I always read the manuals for reasons like this haha