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Falling In Reverse

does anyone know what the best amp settings for falling in reverse is and distortion?

get a Peavey 6505

"Amp setting

I think you want that pluralized, there's a lot of knobs on those gain banger amps like the 5150... and it'd prolly be guitar dependent as far as the gain and tone controls go.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Yeah. I helped a guy with a "generic 2000s metalcore" tone and he said as soon as he got his hands on a 6505 it was just Correct. Not sure there's too much other magic about it, or a specific amp setting. Also, active pickups tend to sound sharper and better with that level of gain.

the active circuitry is less the reason for that then the low impedance output and built in high apss fitler that takes out rumple from the wound strings before the amp (very helpful when drop tuning)... that's why metal guys who play traditional pickups often like a tubescreamer in front of their heavy gain banger amps.... there's a filter to tighten up the lows into the first gains tage and it sends a buffered low impedance signal (or any post boss design, doesn't even have to be an OD per se as long as it has an input filter and a very low impedance output). The ultra low impedance into a high impedance is a big part of the crisp top and the filtering of the low end is the low end tightening. You could get soemthign similar by building a gain banger amp with a small coupling cap on the input to shave extreme lows (most amps follow the fender model and don't have a coupling cap in the signal path until tis needed to block DC voltage from getting on the gain pot after the first stage, pots crackle if you apply DC to them, sound dirty buta ren't) and by increase the grid leak resistor on the first stage from the traditional fender 1m which won't do a lot until you get stupid big because the passive guitar pickup's impedance is already quite high... another solution would be to make the first stage a unity gain buffer before the actual amp that would utilize an entire dual triode, I would use soemthing hifilike a 12au7 or a 12dw7 (half an ax7 and half an au7 in one envelope, great tube), in cathode follower configuration but that would make the amp much more expensive. Dumble did soemthign similar with fets out front, that's the 'fet' switch on d style amps. ENgages a fet buffer that has some pre-gain toneshaping, a high input impedance and low output impedance.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

interesting. that's another route OP could go too instead of active pikups i guess, with the tubescreamer.

its a popular trick... metal guys are also known to sue the HM2 the same way... hair abnds liked the SD1... they're all doing a simialr thing with the gian down but with different midrange emphasis from the rest of the circuit. You can do it with a frickin' dynacomp with the compression set all the way down or close to it.... I always liked that the dyncaomp does the bass tighten thing, gives comrpession, sends a low imepdance AND it doesn't add any non amp dirt. I sued to use a dynacomp a lot as a toenshaper and buffer in front of gunned up amps when recording, a litle comrpession and boost for elads, no comrepssion for rhythm, set the output to be about at unity when you disengage. Bang. Works really well with vitnage amps but I've used it on other guys when recording bands who were on the more metal end of the spectrum. Damn, I gave away my secret studio pedal. THe klon with the gian at zero is another variation on this theme, tis your true bypass tone with a little less thump and a low output impedance. I feelc ertain I read an article with bill Finnegan where he said the whole design was based around trying to perfect that 'tubescremer with the gain down' trick as well as provide a distortion thatw as 'your sound only more of it'.... he nailed part1. So a soul food is another good, cheap option for this since it will have zero dirt at zero gain but it gives you the other parts of the equation, a healthy amount of boost if you want to hit the amp hard and some decent overdrive to boot

On the toehr hand live I don't want anything coloring my signal if the amp is providing sufficient tone and dirt, although i've experimented with a lot I always come back to getting the sound form the amp, whether its a amster volume design or soemthing vintage. But in tehs tudio you might need a mroe subtle bass tightening into your dirt then the onboard EQ can provide because of where its places in teh circuit and how the bass control may be centered, doing it afterwards with high pass on the mic or desk isn't going to sound the same, although I always try that first... the ultimate extension of this trick is the eric valentine method of using a graphic EQ to hit a high gain amp in a very specific way frequency-wise.... I've read that van halen used this to mellow the top end of what he was giving his amrhsalls so that he could run the rpesence and treble all the way up for max gain and distortion without worrying about it getting brittle and ahrsh. In my oppinion no one makes a good soundinggraphic eq pedal anymore though. They're msotly noisy ith allt eh wrong center frequencies for the bands... not guitar-flattering to my ears. A good alternative is an old boss half rack, the elss bands the better, they come in 2 sizes... big graphics designed for PA sue are a no go, too much shit to mess with, tooe asy to induce phase problems in your output signal... a cool thing to do ina studio with an API desk or some API pres and graphics is to go into the DI input of the preamp and then engage a 560 graphic and shape your sound then instead of 'reamp boxing' the signal to raise the impedance back up just send a low impedance signal from an FX send (or the output of the API lunchbox) right into the guitar amp.You may need to fiddle with cable adapters or a ground lift since studio gear sends a balanced signal, but hey, this has worked for me. Even a 550 semi aprametric is good here, though tis more of a post-recording EQ and a great one too...

anyway, I still have no idea what song we're talking about LOL, don't need to know, there's only handful of secrets to this stuff...

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Shit, I won't spill your secret sauce, but I will certainly have to try it out. Funny you mention Klons, I tried one for this type of metal type thing and didn't think it really worked, at least not for the style. That's just me tho :) I love my klone to death,

In terms of tone coloring? Fuck me up. Colored tone is just tasty tone that you can turn off haha. Lol at your last sentence.