Fender Champion 100

is that the affordable, itty bitty 2 tone fender tube amp with a 12ax7 and single 6V6 through a 6inch speaker? For some reason I am thinking the amp I am referring to is a champion 600 not 100, but I am not sure....

If we are talking about the same amp, I got one on trade 5 or 6 years ago and sold it right away. Its a good mod platform, but stock I did not care for it. There's a fixed blackface tonestack hidden between the two 12ax7 gain stages that is set in such a way that its boomy and farty with neck pickups but nasal and hollow sounding in the low midrange with all but the hottest bridge pickups. If you remove it the amp will be close to vintage spec and will sound more like Clapton's "Layla" tone. Of course, without the fixed tone stack eating all the gain up you will be low on headroom, so I guess fender was trying to provide more clean tone without spending on puts and knobs to let you adjust the tone settings yourself. I get the idea, but with the stock resistors network its just not happenin' for me or most players. Personally I do not play single ended amps to get a bone clean tone. Also, this amp is built on a crappy PCB, so if you want to mod it you need to be careful with the delicate board.

If you are talking about the powerful solid state amps branded "champion" then I have no direct experience with this particular model, but my experience with fender solid state amps in general is that they are not particularly nice sounding as solid state goes. When we talk about good solid state tones, its all about clean tone and Fender's transistor designs just don't have the best solid state clean. They are, however, affordable and loud and come with better sounding speakers than your average solid state amp at this price point.

Na, its a 100w 212 combo solid state modelling amp, sounds pretty nice for the price to be honest, I was tempted by one but decided I want to get more cash together after Christmas and buy myself a nice tube amp.

Depends if you want it for live use or home use. I like them, was tempted by one at one point before I decided I would rather get a decent tube amp.

So pros, They are loud Don't sound too bad I think they can be plugged into a computer to chose fender amp presets but I may be thinking of the Fender super champ x2 I think they take effects pretty well too Have good sounding speakers in them

Cons Solid state modelling amps in general aren't always amazing in terms of how they sound Being 100 watts they tend to be too loud for home usage They are pretty heavy Fender solid states dont have the most amazing clean channels I don't think the reverb on them sounds very great for a fender amp

oh, they model now? I am not a big fan of ANY integrated modelling amps.... modelling seems best when its done with fancy outboard processors that have great AD/DA conversion... the other problem with most modelling combos is that they build in the cab modelling and those impulse responses do not behave correctly through a traditional guitar speaker, they really need something way more full range to sound right... Line6's Amplifi seems to be aimed at correcting this fault, but personally if I get stuck with a modelling processor I like to disable the cab model and run it directly into a poweramp and a decent closed back cab and stick with an amp model that is suited to the cab I have available

it still feels all wrong like wearing your underwear outside your pants, then again superman and Madonna have been wearing underwear over a body stocking for years and they seem quite happy, so maybe I am just closed minded

Well it's a modeller. Need I say more.

Okay well it's decent, for a modeller, better than line 6 anyway. Save up and get a cheap tube amp, a vox ac4 will sound better then that. I guess if you're looking for an all in one deal, with built in effects, and the like go for it, but otherwise don't.