Les Paul Special or P90 sg

ive been starting to get into more alternative, punk, and melodic hardcore, so ive been looking at these two extensively, what are your guyses thoughts on these, the jazzmaster is also an option but i really want a stop tail gibson with p90's

the vintage SG special and recent SG classic are barely distinguishable from single or double cut specials in practice.... old ones have the wraparound bridge which ahs a sound and used stock won't always intonate unless you have a really fine example.... doern ones like the classic and junior/special have Nashville-TOM/stop-bars and sound a smidge different if you listen super hard A/Bng wraps and nashville bridges...

great guitars.... good format... if you want a weird hybrid look at the les paul studio DC f the alte 90s.... basically a capped les paul special DC with teh wrap abr but humbuckers... my hamer is inthat camp as is my old washburn but they have tele-ish hardatil bridges. Old hamers and washburns kill it at that thing if you want loud bucker and the shape and sonic qualities, they have a special shape with a flat maple top on the mahogany that addds a little spank back so you don't miss those noisey P90s.

oh, did I mention that rel P90s are a nosie prblem ons tage? P90s and Dearmonds are the worst for hum in this smart-phone laden modern world.

the SG1 is another option for SG specialish tones on teh cheap. basically like a bucker eqipped SG jr you can swap the stock crap bucker for a fralin p94 split coil hunbucker sized P90 and do pete townshend impressions all night

i also was looking at the newer classic t i think which has the mini buckers, im not entirely thats the name tho, i like p90s but i know about the hissing with them and as for bridge no matter what if i got an sg id pull a Tim McIlrath and have an evertune put in it but thats a lot of money for a later time since that involves a lot of wood being removed

oh, SGs are a bit lighter, many tend to have ehadstock lean.... and they of course have more fret access but a slightly different position for the neck pickup that has a different hamonic

minibuckers sound good, properly made ones sound close to a t-top or alte PAF, low output, P90ish at time but have a very tight bass response compared to a classic gibson bucker or P90... the route for most LPs and SGs with minis is a P90 route but the screw holes are different, easy mod to go P90

yea my concern was neck diving when i let go, the sg when i was a little kid was my dream guitar as i got older i started getting into guitar i started to lean more towards fender but i still was a gibson now that im a full sized little kid and think i have the money to get a used special, my friend has a double cut lp special he found for less than 500 and loves it and it was tv yellow which was icing on the cake

edit: one of the online reviews i saw said gibson said it was an affordable sg that was made to be swapped for p90's if wanted i think new they 900 but used are 6-700

OH! also look at the american II by gibson, basically a LP secial DC hybrided with a melody maker 2 DC of the late 60s but with a strat vibrato bridge.... mie kills with a babicz bridge upgrade and a pickup mod. Stock pickups are hot ceramic melody maker pickps so they are like 1 coil of a humbucker with the bar centered under the polepieces, kinda weak and with ceramic weak and ahrsh. I got rif of my neck pickup and replace the bridge with a full size duncan bucker wired to the 3 way as a ront-buking-back setup... I put a les paul JR pickguard on to cover the hole where th neck pickup was... kidna a hybrid shredding/classic rock axe now... like if Leslie west played in Extreme

also my faux joan jett guitar sometimes... when my other guitars are too classy I play her

yea my concern was neck diving when i let go, the sg when i was a little kid was my dream guitar

my standard doe snot enck dive but tis a special SG I spent eyars finding.... my silver SG special dives a bit but its silver and silver guitrs are cool as fuck

i like silver burst lp's but not my stayle i really like the silver and gold finishes fender have tho, especially on tele cabronitas

I have the inca silver robert cray strat now, my 2 gibsons in solid silver are technically 'pewter' and its like a slightly less shiny verion of inca silver, all 3 guitars match very well in color

I have a gold firebird as well, awesome even though its an epi with a shitty finish material.... ullion gold I think? ery much shoreline gold to my eye.... guitar is just okay, might sell it, but tis ahrd to find a firebird 1 with the wrap tail

OH! try a firebird one with the wrap tail and single bridge firebird bucker! theya re unique, nasty and awesome.... gibson's esquire to my ear

i used to not like the metal colors but ive been liking shoreline gold more and more, when i get a tele i may wait for a tele cabronita thinline in it unless i see the solid body version in surf green

I've ahd a couple surf greens trats ove the years... looks cooler ins tore. greens suck ons tage due to lighting concerns.... metallic color look even ebtter better under colored lights than in your bedroom on the stand!

the ebst green under lghts in gretsch cadillac green which ahs no fender or gibson equivalent.... ahd a caddy green 58 duo jet reissue for eyars, sweet but noisey

and ive looked at the epi firebird studios also but if i got one id probably drop filtertrons or somethig similar in it

NO!!!! just get good duncan firebird antiquities, the firvird is a unique bucker, its like 2 tiny dano lipstck coils epoxied into a minibucker case.... wire wound right onto bar magnets and taped up, so amazing and different!

wiltertrons are great but they are sotly different from other bucker due to the low wind... guild HB1s are close because of the smaller siameter and tallness of coils along ith low windings and a super udnerwound PAF is not far off.... the firebird id unique and magic in hum buckers

when i look at color its more or so for me, my prefernece on any guitar is white or walnut/mocha finish although ive seen some mij mustangs in yellow and onstage it looks awesome the first one i saw was at a Wombats concert and it just stands out really well

i think the epi studio has full size routes otherwise id get mini's for it

oh does it? I have a bonamassa which is vintage correct except for the poly finish... don't usually do epi ;-)

yea it looks like fullsize, but id pick up swap it for the sake of swapping out cheap pick ups and more reliabe wiring

ive seen some mij mustangs in yellow

back to gibson DCs? TV yellow is mainly available on LP jrs, only the customshop does modern tv yellow p90 equipped SGs! in the vintage era there were a few TV yellow SG jrs and specials, but maybe just a few months worth, rare! ther was also a brief mid 00s faded SG special with p90s and a shitty worn tv yellow finish, but I enver played a good one, not to snuff with the era's lp special DC in faded TV yellow

by the way, did you know that I love guitars? well I do

wjat about non-reverse firebirds? theya re jazzmaster shped, SG scale/construction with P90s