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Looking for this TONE/SOUND

Hello Equipboard! I'm looking for the guitar tone/model/sound used in the youtube video link.

It is a blues version of "Simple Man" by Blues Rock Thunder

Can ANYONE help me with putting together this tone/sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSK2M6_ZBfY&list=RDFSK2M6_ZBfY&start_radio=1

Thanks for helping.

GEAR:
  • TC Helicon VoiceLive 3 Multi Effects Pedal
  • PreSonus StudioLive AR16
  • Boss BD-2 Blues Driver

Hello & welcome chopchop :)

I'm not sure how you're going to feel about this news, but there is a strong possibility that the content on Blues Rock Thunder's channel is 100% AI-generated.

My best guess is that BRT is uploading classic songs to Suno (or a similar AI music gen platform), and the platform's AI is generating a blues rock cover of that song based on some very specific prompting. These platforms have apparently had this ability to generate cover versions in various styles for a while now. This would mean there's zero signal chain in BRT's process: no guitar > pedal > amp + cab, it's all generated directly from the AI model.

If we take a listen to some blues rock on YouTube that is openly revealing it was made with Suno, there are many sonic similarities:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PBcR3XTUAk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsawFl91n_M

If generative AI is not your thing, and you're just looking to improve your own live/human blues guitar tone, I'd recommend picking a reference that is 100% confirmed to be human. I'm sure people here would be happy to lend some more specific advice if there were real guitars, amps and pedals used in the final recording.

GEAR:
  • Roland TR-808 Rhythm Composer
  • Roland SH-101
  • Roland TR-909 Rhythm Composer

death's too good for them, Ken

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

I'd like to think that there's someone out there, living in a van, toiling away in bars and coffee shops across the country, who just naturally has an "Eddie Dalton/Suno Blues AI" voice -- and that person ends up holding all the bargaining chips when people inevitably want to experience these Suno blues songs live.

GEAR:
  • Roland TR-808 Rhythm Composer
  • Roland SH-101
  • Roland TR-909 Rhythm Composer

Oh, that's definitively 200% AI. Fucking Suno as always.

GEAR:
  • Blank
  • Boss BF-3 Flanger
  • Meteoro Demolidor FWB-20

Hello Pkennethk,

Thank you for your response. I was excited when I saw someone replied to my plea for help...but then I got bummed about the AI part (I am old school..55yo) but I am not all that surprised.

Given my current home set up, I am confident that with some help I can get "something" close to what I am wanting. Since this current musical venture of mine (using pedals to create custom tones) is purely peronal, I'll take what I can get, when I can get it (no more gig's for these old bones)!

I received some advice on another platform about seperating the tone layers first (OD/Dist, Rev, etc) then assigning each layer to a seperate channel to blend them later in editing. Lately I'm not a huge fan of the "editing magic", but I am not adverse to it either. I would rather get it live, if possible.

Regards,

Tony Letourneau

GEAR:
  • TC Helicon VoiceLive 3 Multi Effects Pedal
  • PreSonus StudioLive AR16
  • Boss BD-2 Blues Driver

Tony, I'm relived to hear you weren't posting that video just to mess with us. :)

Equipboard is all about specifics. This maybe isn't the best place to get advice on general approaches to blues guitar tone (yet!) -- but it's a great place to get specific info on exactly what gear and processes were used on a specific track.

We already knocked out that first one... even if the answer isn't something we all feel great about.

If you're game to serve up another track for the community to focus on, there's a decent chance you'll get some discussion on the gear and recording techniques used, and possibly mapping that info to the Les Paul-based setup you're currently using.

GEAR:
  • Roland TR-808 Rhythm Composer
  • Roland SH-101
  • Roland TR-909 Rhythm Composer

quoth the Kenneth:

Equipboard is all about specifics. This maybe isn't the best place to get advice on general approaches to blues guitar tone (yet!) -- but it's a great place to get specific info on exactly what gear and processes were used on a specific track.

but there are a couple basics to consider in blues tone, the first is era:

you can essentially divide this into pre and post Stevie Ray and Eric Johnson (you could also say pre or post hendrix I guess, but all the fx became prevalent thanks to those 2 guys)... if you're going for pre-SRV/EJ and you can't turn up a tube amp you'll be swimming upstream, it can and has been done, but you're just simulating a tube amp turned up til it sings or fully overdrives, if there's reverb its at a different stage of the signal chain as an on-board amp reverb than in a pedal chain, you may get closer with a modeller... if you're listening to modern stuff just pick an artist and search them on EB, you'll probably get a pretty good idea what's in their signal chain and possibly in what order

next is volume:

how loud can you play? even if the amp is set clean effects will sound different when the speakers are working a little harder... in fact, nothing shapes tone more than speaker selection but its seldom spoken about outside enthusiast circles. Consider your speaker or IR selection. Do you know what your reference tone is coming out of? Is there something similar you can use if you're playing a lower wattage amp turned down so you can make the speaker sweat at a reasonable level? Can you tweak FX settings to respond better at low volumes?

copping tones can be a rabbit hole

I think that copping an AI tone that's a complete digital mishmash of recorded tones from polished studio mixes that the LLM thinks people want to hear with no single reference in physical circuits will be an exercise in futility.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp