1st experience: I generally prefer Taylor acoustics to current Gibsons. They sound better and play as well or better depending on the guitars in question. I will take an old Gibson acoustic any time though. Anything up until about 62 is hard to beat. I am NOT a Martin guy. I want to be but I think they are stiff guitars and always have been. I have played a good 100 years worth of Martins over the years and I don't get it. 1930s? stiff, 2010s? stiff. Martin has a very consistent feel. Too consistent. Can't find one I like at ANY price! Current production Taylors are very consistent too. Older Taylors less soo. My dad's friend has an early Taylor I love. I have tried to find a similar model from the 80s for myself but every time I play one its not as good as this dude's tonally or in feel.
2nd experience: the SG specials with humbuckers are an odd duck in the Gibson line. For a while they were Gibson's most affordable USA guitar that was available every year. At first it was a nice guitar for the buck, but as the 90s progressed I liked them less and less. I would describe the neck feel as "incomplete". It feels like all the SG specials made since the late 90s got their rough carve on the CNC machine and went straight to sanding and finishing with no further hand carving by a skilled worker (which is the way non-custom-shop Gibbies get done and is the reason why Gibson has such a wide variation in neck feel even within a model that is available with only one of the big 3 Gibson neck profiles). I have had a number of friends get SG specials since '99 and all of them got returned or sold quickly. They just feel clunky and bad. I do not defend Gibson for letting so many junk examples of their entry-level model hit the shelves. When I say I don't approve of their business practices, that's one of them/ Oddly enough I had a very low end LP special in TV yellow that was a fabulously made guitar that was actually cheaper than the cheapest SG special. They only made that cheap P90 special for a year or 2 about 10 years ago. They were all pretty good and a lot were fantastic guitars for under a grand, so they CAN make a good entry level guitar. They just don't bother every year and that's bullshit. Comparing my SG standard, just a basic SG model made basically the way Gibson has made them since the late 60s is like a completely different guitar than the SG special. At a glance they are the same, but the level of craftsmanship and attention to detail is like they came from 2 different manufacturers. Same goes with the 2 nicer LPs I own/owned versus the late 90s LP studio I briefly owned. That studio felt like they didn't finish carving the neck right or put her together properly, whereas my 80s standard and my fancy platinum edition studio are STUPID nice guitars with perfect neck joints, refined neck carves, perfectly manicured frets etc... the SG special is just consistently bad example of a Gibson and they should fix it up or stop making it as an affordable alternative. Same goes for the entry level LP studio.
3rd experience: epis haven't been made by Gibson since before I was born. Its not a Gibson. The same epi model is totally variable (even in APPEARANCE) depending on who Gibson corporate jobbed the production run out to. Since china got involved they have been universally bad. Or at least EVERY single one I have picked up has been a poor player, muddy, had a bad neck angle, and the frets felt like they needed more dressing etc... theyare a lot like squire. There are periods where there are keepers if you get a magic model from a year when a new far eastern subcontractor was trying to impress the corporate brass who hired them, but in general? A beginner's guitar that is not even as good as a no-name copy (sorry Liam). I know you said your shreaton2 was recent in another thread. The quality on the Chinese semis is PISS poor. They release lots of cool colors so I pick them up once in a while hoping they will be serviceable backups but they just suck a rat.
I am not backing down from my assertion that gobs of players have played or still play Gibson USA guitars and that the Gibson vibe is both a standard and influential. Thanks for adding BC Rich to my list of Gibson influenced guitar because Neck thru BC riches owe a lot to the firebird ;-)
I am not a dyed in the wool Gibson man either. I own 3 fenders I love and some non-Gibson set-necks, 2 of which have no corresponding Gibson model they rip-off. They riff on a lot of Gibson ideas, but are NOT Gibson clones in ANY way. On the pickups in your Sheraton, maybe they accidentally swapped the bridge and neck buckers at the factory during installation. We are talking about cheap far est pickups anyway. Also, if they were meant to copy vintage PAFs then they may not be calibrated (calibrating pickups to position was invented til the late 70s, thanks Hamer!)... original Gibson buckers from PAF to T-Top are speced to be fairly low output and the bridge can sound pretty fender if they come out on the low side of the winds specs. If that's what the far-east bastardizers cloned then you ould get a boomy neck and shrill bridge. If they sued poly wire and bright A5 or ceramic magnets? That will compound the shrillness and boominess in a poorly calibrated set. Not all 50s PAF pickups are so great despite their fearsome reputation and pricing. I have played mid 50s gibsons with early PAFs that had very single coily tones. Very low output, twangy bridge and a boomy neck that ahs that glassy strat neck quality. I rather like these guitars, but they are not what one is looking for from a humbucker guitar these days. I wouldn't seek to reproduce those sounds in a current production instrument. Old guitars with the low output buckers are more of a fun curiosity for guys with money to burn!
I just have trouble with guys in the rabidly anti-Gibson camp who discount their lasting influence, especially when they aren't cinverted Gibson-players like some older anti-Gibson guys are (the Norlin era pissed a lot of old heads off as did the massive price jump after Slash repopularized the LP). Its weird to me that someone whose Gibson experiences consist of 2 models at the extreme end of the spectrum that he did not own and 1 non-Gibson student guitar jobbed out by the parent company has such a strong opinion. I've owned and played scads of gibbies and I have a really mixed opinion, but I definitely do not discount Gibson's HUGE influence on everything since that's not a bolt-on.