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Parallel phasing

I was wondering last night of a way to use multiple phasers/flangers without running them into each other, so series. Oviously I could send the guitar signal to multiple amps, each with a separate phaser, but if you only have one amp, then?

you could try getting 2 ABY boxes maybe.... it probably won't work well though for various electrical reasons

in a sense a phaser is already a parallel design because it has 50% dry signal mixed with the sweeping, delayed filter tone to produce the phase shift

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

True, but if I wanted say a slow phase, and a fast phase, both on my signal, but without one phaser, phasing the other what would I do.

get an aby and set it to aby, like the fender mini aby pedal, then plug A into one flanger and B into the other and run them into two different amps. You can even do it with a tuner if it has two out puts, one thats output/direct and the other that is bypass. I do this when I play rocksmith, that way I can just turn the guitar off on their and hear myself clearly through the amp. Yes I play rocksmith because I'm that sad and felt like getting it to see what its like haha

that didn't answer the orginal question which was about 1 amp.... your suggestion's kidna obvious and would sound kinda cool though I might put a flange on one side and a phase on the other or at least 2 phasers with a different number of stages.... but that wouldn't work in 1 amp, the cancellations when summing the 2 phasers would probably make your tone too wonky

the whole thing is just kinda dumb anyway, phase is such an extreme effect (even a simple 4 stage phaser) that a little goes along way.... but something that might mmuse the OP is the Mutron Biphase, that is if he can come up with the 1200 bucks or more they run you in vintage collector circles

one of my good friends plays rocksmith, how lame can it be? he's a cool guy.... okay, I am lying, he is a nerd

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Didn't read it properly, don't think it would work going into one amp very well, maybe on a twin input amp? Like something with a normal input and a bright input but surely when the single hits the preamp you'll have the same problem as going into one input on a amp anyway.

Rocksmith is fun, makes learning some Megadeth etc that I don't have the patience to learn ridiculously easy! The lessons aren't too bad not that they are even any use to me anyway, they're good for my Fiancée as she wants/wanted to learn to play before she got pregnant so she may start trying to learn again. It's a cool game and a great learning tool especially when you're too lazy to A: Work a song out by ear or B: Read tabs and do it that way. I've worked out a few songs by ear and as fun as it is I just don't have the time to sit there with my guitar working riffs out. Its 2am, the joys of a newborn who just wants to sleep on your chest! Finally asleep so I'm gunna get some sleep. Check out the picture of him on my board if you like

If I could upload pictures on my phone. I'll do it in a few hours when I have to get up to go to the shops

Hows your tube amp treating you anyway? Cant wait to get one in February when I finally have got the money together

but working a song out by ear is the best training, especially if you can work it out by ear FROM MEMORY, my favorite game to play with myself (especially when playing bedtime songs for my son)... its also fun to put the tv on and try to play along to every piece of music in every show and commercial, just let your hands figure it out.... you will be surprised how fast and intuitive you can get

I remember the wonderful fun of being up all night with Lucian, then making more formula at 4:30am, getting in the shower, trying tog et dressed and out the door without him waking up again and then hustling to work and hoping not to get a frantic mother call before lunch.... then come home and repeat.... but he and I had a lot of bonding time watching rock concerts during those late night feedings....

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Nice. It takes a bit of time to heat up, but after twenty it sings. For practice it rocks, but if, and when my band start doing gigs, I'll need to ask around, because fifteen watts won't cut the mustard.

How's the son.

(Round two of Duke Uke's pop culture references. A thousand gear IQ if you can work out what program I just referenced)

15 watts of tube power is plenty for a small venue like a pub etc through a 212 cab or just mic it if you have PA equipment.

The son is good, sleeping now, was playing guitar to him last night, was doing a few covers and then just noodling around in drop D for the sake of it, was playing stupidly loud though.

I can't work it out, damn!

I will probably buy some sort of 2 x 12 if I ever get going.

Do you like Celestion vintage 30's? Thomann sell a Harley Benton 212 vintage for £160 which is 16mm thick plywood two 212 with celestion vintage 30's. Now thats a deal, it would cost more to buy two vintage 30's on there own let alone in a cab. They do a 412 version two which is £320 or so. Harley Benton are made by Thomann and their pedals are just rebranded joyo stuff, but they are pretty good if you're on a budget

Of course I like celestion. Everyone likes celestion

The real question is, can I afford celestion.

The answer is no, I don't think.

the standard series celestions that are now made in china are not as hot shit as they once were, the cost is outrageous too... if you are spending, buy old.... 1st generation V30s that were made exclusively for Marshall in the mid 80s are way better sounding than any V30 made since... I really regret not stealing the "Marshall Vintage" speaker from my '85 Marshall Studio15 before selling it, though I doubt I woulda got the big money for it if I had done a speaker swap.... guys who know prefer the 1st gen V30, just like nsot of us have a preference for G12M vintage too either pre-rola or black back for most folks who are hip to great tone

personally I tend to buy WGS speakers when I want a modern celestion, Warehouse makes cheaper and often better versions of the whole celestion line including a few discontinued models:

https://wgs4.com/

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

True, but if I wanted say a slow phase, and a fast phase, both on my signal, but without one phaser, phasing the other what would I do.

Summing those 2 signals, even if its the same phaser model, may have undesireable cancellations with them set differently resulting in bizarre volume drops and spikes at oddball frequencies. 2 different phaser models will certainly produce volume drops and spikes when summed into a single amplifier input. You will need to try it. Get 2 cheap ABY boxes or an amp with 2 independent channels that are electrically in phase and have at it. Borrow a ton of different phasers until you find a combination that produces the sound you want. I would start with 2 of the same phaser, go with something simple like a pair of phase 90s.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

one thing I have done is to flange or phase my sound in stereo then phase one side, that may produce more of what you are looking for, but I don't really know what you're shooting for

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp