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The Big Muff: Original, Mini, or Nano

what hiwatt did you have?! I've enver owned one and I want one desperately!

It was like 14 years ago but if memory serves it was a 50 w/o a volume pot. Just gain. I was playing a Ric & a Gibson at that time. Fucking loved it. Think it was a "Fuck! I'm broke!" situation that caused us to part ways.

thing with voxes is that they work best with minimal effects.... though the edge makes his work with the kitchen sink, most of us find we can't overdo it without compromising some of the sound.... the abriters are still adeal in vintage ac30s and ine is a beast. Loud, punchy and a bit amrshally. used it on some recordings you heard and you didn't say the riffs sounded bad ;-)

Yeah man-I was chasing Vox amps for about a year-Hitting shops locally & on tour trying out every one I could find. It's like a mission I never finished.

Oh for fucks sake. I just saw a plugin review in my YouTube feed that has handles. HANDLES??? So Mario or Pac Man can pick up my VST's? Who thinks up this shit?

i got to play a fano through a custom 50 at chicago music exchange, cause you know the 1975 and all that hipster stuff im into but that thing was loud as fuck i couldnt actually use the volume knob for fear of losing my hearing but that amp a shoegazers dream it has such a crisp clean

that amp a shoegazers dream it has such a crisp clean

first time I saw servedriver they had an all hiwatt backline... old dr103s or 504s, not sure which.... LOUD and clean when they were clean. Sounded best at the back of the Troc though

the following tour they ahd 90s ac30 reissues coupled with marshall 2204s through stock modern marhsall slant cabs

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

honestly any amp can be shoegazed with look at terry with his cranked marshalls, but for me i love the cleans from vox, fender and hiwatt i want to try a tone king tho but they cost as much as a used car

I tried tone king's 15 watt royal and was blown away by its low volume plexi tones.... sounded more plexi like than some fo the plexis I've had LOL

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

I find the boutique stuff to sound substantially better than the best muffs... everything thats good about the best examples with a lwoer noise floor and very carefully refined voicing or lots of controls to refine it for yourself. i still don't like the muff much, but my skreddy and stomp underfoot stomped allover all the muffs I owned prior.

Oh they absolutely will! Cannot even pretend to defend on that. The Boutiques will do that and so much more.. build quality and care, selection of components and a decent handful of other considerations thrown in.

I think where I was headed with that blanket statement, was that if someone was SPECIFICALLY after that old Big Muff sound, and did not feel they needed to drift too far from it, then they should grab an old Big Muff or something that does JUST THAT... so that they can know for sure.

Stretching that analogy a bit to take everyone out of the blanket of distotion/ fuzz/ od/ dirt which gets a bit blurred at best of times...I would look at this comparison:

This kinda follows that same principle of someone buying an expensive boutique phase or flange pedal, so they can dial it down to emulate chorus voicings that they heard on a song or an album and liked. While they bought it to reach that desired mark, they will invariably stray from that with every other option present... defeating the initial exercise of wanting that chorus sound to start with... because there are many options present.

So going back to the Big Muff, maybe the OP wants to be able to dial in a sound but also wants the versatility to branch out... then yeah! boutiques open a thousand doors. But to find out if the Big Muff is the sound for you.... start with a Big Muff. Not a double or a Metal or a tone wicker... all trying to compensate for the original circuit. Keep it simple and see how you work with it, and it works for you.

GEAR:
  • Fender MIJ Jazzmaster JM62
  • Epiphone Dot
  • Electro-Harmonix Sovtek "Green Russian" Big Muff Pi V7C

what about one of these for the OP, a green russian type circuit and IC based siamese dream version in one box with extra features?

http://equipboard.com/items/green-carrot-pedals-pumpkin-pi

just saw soe dude's review of this and though "gee, that's a realy band for buck with 2 of the msotpopular old muffs in one enclosure... bet that rbandon guy could use this to find out what the muff is all about"

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

or the cheap Biyang clone