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Trying to decide on a new amp

Here are my considerations: bogner Uberschall, Sunn model T (Bassman variety), Orange Thunderverb 200w, Verellen Meatsmoke 300w Bogner Toneking, Diezel vh4, Diezel Herbert, Mesa/Boogie Triple Rectifier, peavy 6505, soldano sl100 as you can see all those amps are 100 watts to 300 watts. I'm looking for modern metal tones, but here's the problem i'm playing both extremely low sustain styles like where i would want a New millennium Cynanide christ type tone, and extremely high sustain styles where I would want a Sunn 0))) type tone. Is there anything that can hit both those departments money no object?

GEAR:
  • Dunlop Big Stubby 3.0mm Dark Purple Guitar Picks
  • Stringjoy Signatures (Custom Set w/ Wound 3rd)
  • EarthQuaker Devices Acapulco Gold V2

the slo 100 is the finest of high gain amps in my book though its in the marshall camp; bright, edgey and low on actual bass, but it cuts a mix and sounds like gold, best preamp distortion and a well defined chunk from the exceptional transformers. Mike got there 1st and did it best. The clean tone is the best of any channel switcher I've personally played and the 'overdrive' setting is pretty much an 800 preamp. I am not a PCB fan in tube gear but this is the best constructed current production PCB based amp, the baord is truly milspec and anything that could pull free and wreck a gig is wired off board via flying leads like an 80s marshall, as god intened. I would take this over the bassman/plexi type model T any day. Or get an actual pelxi or Laney supergroup/klipp. I played superleads for years, they are mean as hell when used in anger... neither of these amps will produce a 'brown note' that's more of a moog synthesizer through a 1000+watt PA with subs thing anyway

avoid the rectifier and peavey unless you like repair bills or want to learn to replace power tube sockets or fets in switching circuit all the time.... I can't speak for the thunderverb directly but the construction of most modern oranges does not inspire confidence.

the meatsmoke is in the sunn camp.... I've never been impressed with bogner but I've heard them sound good.... I've never had anyone ask me to repair one.

Did we do this already or was that someone else?

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

I do like the soldano but the entire point of getting this amp is to be able to push out Double drop A and lower at 120db so I need like Sunn 0))), Bongripper, Sleep, Electric Wizard level bass punch. In fact I'm literally getting a DOD meatbox just to push 15 hz and 35hz and then still use a graphic eq to push 5-90 hz plus like 5 bass-tuned fuzzes always on. I don't think you understand what i'm looking for.

GEAR:
  • Dunlop Big Stubby 3.0mm Dark Purple Guitar Picks
  • Stringjoy Signatures (Custom Set w/ Wound 3rd)
  • EarthQuaker Devices Acapulco Gold V2

conventional speaker can't produce 5hz so you're eating amplifier headroom for nothing, that will require a subwoofer with its own amp and no one will know its happening anyway

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Ok maybe I was ignorant, but we’re talking 35-120 hz boost, Drop E or lower tuning and 100-150db performance volumes. That’s what I’m saying, that’s what I’m needing!!!!

GEAR:
  • Dunlop Big Stubby 3.0mm Dark Purple Guitar Picks
  • Stringjoy Signatures (Custom Set w/ Wound 3rd)
  • EarthQuaker Devices Acapulco Gold V2

read the handbook of acoustics

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

I want a rather dark doomy tone with bass and sub, there's no need to be snarky or not help me get wha tI need

GEAR:
  • Dunlop Big Stubby 3.0mm Dark Purple Guitar Picks
  • Stringjoy Signatures (Custom Set w/ Wound 3rd)
  • EarthQuaker Devices Acapulco Gold V2

iommi was dark and doomy, he invented it.... he used off the shelf laney supergroups and a modded treble booster. I think anything on your list will do doomy, heck, a pinned fender into a 4x12 can get there. but the ridiculous requirements viz a viz sub-bass reproduction in bizzare drop tunings that are lower than low were getting quite comical and I had to say something

just get a slo100, its good enough for matt pike these days

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

rad I'm sorry, i know the whole djent and downtune scene gets a lot of hate, but you might be surprised how bands are using Drop E, Double Drop A, or even Double Drop E on a routine basis, ffs I saw a video tuning town to Triple Drop A on a ten string, which even i agree is unceccary, but the point being it isn't very funny. also sub is real and if you can't hear it you can feel it, that's the diffrence between Sunn O))) and any other doom band.

GEAR:
  • Dunlop Big Stubby 3.0mm Dark Purple Guitar Picks
  • Stringjoy Signatures (Custom Set w/ Wound 3rd)
  • EarthQuaker Devices Acapulco Gold V2

But then again unironically i think I have it down to either Diezel VH4 or Soldano Sl100 or bogner Uberschall or Triple Rectifier. Anyone have any advice on those 4.

GEAR:
  • Dunlop Big Stubby 3.0mm Dark Purple Guitar Picks
  • Stringjoy Signatures (Custom Set w/ Wound 3rd)
  • EarthQuaker Devices Acapulco Gold V2

the slo and deizel have a lot in common in gain levels and the way the distortion is produced, the deizel is defintiely a descendant of the slo100 via the dual rec and 5150 etc. All these amps are basically tweaked soldanos with ineferior components and more features. If you don't need the 4 channels get the soldano. There's less that can go wrong with their switching due to it only switching between 2 channels and also the leegance of the design and quality of components chosen...

and I'm telling you the slo100 has the best transformer set in a current production amp and the build quality is second to none. The deizel ahs more features and versatiliy, the slo is a better product though. The SLO has giant iron in there and has more capability to pass extreme low to your speakers. A big, high quality OT is key for this, the amp can always be modded for more bass.... there are a few coupling caps hereand there that could be increased a bit without flubbing out, there's a rbight cap that you may not need on the input.... and some of them have depth controls and turning that up and the keeping the presence low will let a lot of low pass the power amp by lowering the local negative feedback in lower frequencies although you will also be sacrificing punch and clarity at those frequencies.... for djent maybe not good, for drone it will be fine

I really don't think there's a finer high gain head than the slo100. The inside of this amp is a night and day difference from a mesa for instance which looks like an overcrowded mess with lots of ribbon connectors etc that are better suited to a desktop PC than an amplifier that will be gigged and toured. THe only other option is the meatsmoke, whichas far as I know is a hot rodded sunn.... sort of a 2000S with a high gain channel. it will deafen you and everyone you know. Another option is a hiwatt 200 which is probably the loudest 4 pwoer tube amp I've ever heard, they're indestructible but you'll need to add gaina s they don't break up at all and the master has nothing to do with producing distotion.... 200 watt vintage oranges are pretty decent but mainly have inferior parmeko transformers.... anyway

slo100

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

this is what an amp with PCB should look like inside:

https://www.musiker-board.de/attachments/soldano-jpg.739504/

here's some other examples of soldano-like circuits on your list

VH4: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fspinoo.free.fr%2FprojetG5%2FImages%2520Amplis%2FDiezel%2FVH4%2Fvh4_pcb5.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mylespaul.com%2Fthreads%2Ftubes-attached-to-circuit-board-vs-tubes-not-attached-to-circuit-board.122368%2Fpage-2&tbnid=xrIV-vUQ7NDLiM&vet=12ahUKEwij-ffhgMfvAhUHMN8KHbd9C5wQMygIegQIARB5..i&docid=lDjm7Rda4pGGHM&w=1024&h=768&q=diezel%20vh4%20guts&ved=2ahUKEwij-ffhgMfvAhUHMN8KHbd9C5wQMygIegQIARB5

mesa rectifier: https://captainbob.de/publicuse/mesa_dualrectifier.jpg

see a difference yet?

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Well the soldano's the only one with the tubes attached. other than that not much difference.

GEAR:
  • Dunlop Big Stubby 3.0mm Dark Purple Guitar Picks
  • Stringjoy Signatures (Custom Set w/ Wound 3rd)
  • EarthQuaker Devices Acapulco Gold V2

big differences, the soldano has everything off board, all the tubes, as they should be because PCBs hate heat and tubes get hot, the leads are all well dressed on the soldano with good quality wire run neatly... the other 2 have on board tube sockets and multi-lead ribbon connectors in places.... the soldano ahs lots of space whereas the mesa and diezel are very crowded in places.... the layout of the diezel is really weird ebcause there was space in the chassis to avoid the build they settled on, its very odd.... the emsa is multiple PCB even the knobs, its a emss.... I've worked on them, they are a nightmare when they go down and they ALWAYS go down

if you know what you're looking at you can see the soldano is worth every penny in buld quality and the other 2 examples are mainly trading for big money based on the feature set.... you seldom get both.... between the mesa and the VH4 I would take the VH4 but really it looks like a nightmare of eventual service problems to me... I'm sure its a fine amp if you can afford a backup.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp