Upgraded pickups?

The kind that sound good?

what kind of music do you like to play? What kind of amp do you have? Do you use a lot of pedals? c'mon, throw me a frickin' bone here.

cart, horse.... buy a good quality amp that ill suit your needs or at elast a higher fidelity modelling device. a mediocre guitar with stock run of the mill electronics will sound like a million bucks through a good amplifier and high quality speakers that are voiced to do the type of music you want to do...

the corollary is that fancy pickups ina mediocre guitar intoa junk amp or ampstitute will sound like trash....

on the other hand 99% of the people who will hear you play won't know the difference ebtween junk pickups into junk amps and speakers and bespoke guitars, high end tube amps and the finest of vitnage celestion speakers... they're drunka dn tehy don't care

Worth saying that the Joyo is enough wattage and volume to totally replace your Line6

the stuff people say is just nutty... 'how it works with pedals'

all amps take pedals. ya plug 'em in the jack instead of pluggin' straight in! getting the pedals to sound good is up to you. You know how in a car accident its usually the driver's fault, rarely the car... although sometimes if the car needed a recall, but that's neither here nor there. But you're the driver here and the amp is a car that didn't need a recall. Take pedals well? that's subjective. Don't crash your car, man. You'll figure it out.

lets get something straight though, the joyo is NOT, IS NOT... IS NOT? Sure as hell is NOT a tube amp... certainly not in the real sense. Its a hybrid, and a lousy one at that. "But it has a whole 12ax7 tube!" I hear you say. I can put a flux capacitor in your car, don't make it a time machine unless I power the thing with Mr Fusion, okay? Thing is, looking at the back the amp runs on 18v DC... that cant power a 12ax7 to provide legit gain. A 12ax7 needs at least 250v at the palte, man. I build amps, trust me. I like using 300+ personally. That means the 'tube' is a big gimmick. its being run in starved plate mode where its a glorified clipping section for an op amp based gain section feeding the power amp. The tube dioes a smidge of mushy amplification in the pre but it also clips real early. This is how the BK butler tube driver and most other tube pedals operate. The real amplification is from ICs and transistors like every solid state amp. Why nto just get a solid state amp. THese guys are basically selling you a pedal in front of a solid state power amp and pretending it sounds like a tube amp. In staved plate at wimpy18 volts this type of dual triode (12ax7, 1t7, au7, etc etc) is not the best choice. There are Triodes and pentodes that behave a lot better at 18v. Take it from me, tube amps use MAN voltage! The voltages inside of a vox ac30 or marhsall 20 watt? they wil straight up kill you if you poke your finger inside while the caps are charged. 18volts? might feel like a bee sting. You could put your hwang in the joyo and not worry about it getting singed... if you're into that kinda thing. But you can't get a reasonable amount of amplification from a triode unless your at penis singing voltage.

Personally if I were getting a little amp I would get a quilter microblock. In fact, I did, and I don't regret it. Best sounding solid state amp for rock and heavy music I've ever used. ANd its the size of a PEDAL sintead of needlessly large like the joyo (which could be smaller if it weren't pretending to be a tube amp)…

the joyo's a scam, why not just build a good solid state amp and call a spade a spade. HMMph

If you need a delorian that goes back to the future, save up and buy a real one or make your own... if you're cool with a regular car, get the most reliable one you can find.

in addition, DON'T buy the hype... do NOT believe marketing jargon! The guys who write this shit aren't the guys who designed the gear sot of the time. The marketing dudes just spin up a ton of bullshit and always have... I remember seeing a amrshall ad from teh 60s that referred to their 200 watt major ampa s the world's msot pwoerful distortion free amplifier. Wrong on both counts because the thing distorted readily and the ad was published after ampeg released the V9 and SVT LOL.

shit, that's crazy. tbh i almost bought one, and I'm really fucking glad i didn't now.

yes, evilbassist, no amp that legitimately uses vacuum tubes for gain in votlage or output pwoer is liekly to run on 18v DC. Maybe, just maybe they have soe sort of solid state absed tep up pwoer suuply in there to get he tube some voltage. I know a serious engineer from europe who designs stuff like that for his tube pedals but tis unlikely joyo cooked up a clever pwoer supply like that. It really wouldn' make sense to ramp down from 110 to 140vac out of the walls of the world and then ramp abck up to 250+ for the paltes of the tube anyway. you wuld take the wall voltage straight in, split soem to an 18v DC tranformer like in a wall wart, then take anotehr supply node off to supply the 12ax7's plates.

Thank you for the info. I asked this because i tried pedal with the line 6 it was total shit. I will be getting a solid state marshall mg100fx, and i was just looking for something smaller that i could bring for example at school or if i travel and want to bring my guitar to have a mini amp that won't take much space. I'm also thinking about the PL1 fly rig witch can be used as an amp, but i'm not really shure if i would use it that way. And thank you again?!

1) are you a kid? 2) eh, I think if I ahd to pick between a marshall practice amp and a quilter microblock I would definteily take the quitler. You'll need a little cab, but still. The quilter is without a doubt the ebst sounding solid state amp for rock I've ever ehard. I love a lot of other solid state amps for jazz or new wave stuff maybe, but if you must rock? Quilter. 3) whatever portable thing you get you are going to ened speakers when you get there. Even 1x8 combo is not fun to carry. 4) the fly rig has an amplifier in it? news to me. I'm rpettys rue that's just a multi-fx unit. If you cna't plug DI into a PA no one's going to ehar it. 5) are you a kid?

you're a kid, aren't you?

I'm almost 40, you're a kid, tis okay to be a kid

look kid, as a teenager don't sweat the gear so much, focus on your playing... you have your whole life to worry about gear. I wouldn't start to worry until you were like 19 or 20 then you want some professional gear so that in your 20s you have good stuff for gigging... in europe be looking at getting soemthing rock solid like an 80s amrshall, JCM800 or something similar like a 90s laney gh50 or 100, but you have years to save. Try tog et a deal, but understand that good gear costs money and in these days of the internet everyone knows what they have and what tis actually worth. its not like when I was a kid where we bought vintage amps for peanuts. Start saving now and keep saving. hat's the smart play. Sock away a good 1000 euros, dude...

I'm telling you... forget the mgfx and forget about the joyo, get a 1x12 cabinet for your hosue with a good celestion that ahndles over 60 watts, get the qulter microblock45... done You can probably do that for about 300 bucks all in. The microblock will fit in your pocket if you're going someplace that has a speaker cabinet. Its the same size as the EHX 50 caliber but sounds better. It sounds better than pretty much ANYTHING that doesn't have tubes. $150 USD, so probably about the same in your money. NO BRAINER

mesa's cabs have always been great... better than their amps if you ask me

recommend 1x12, since you're concerned about loudness. a 2x12 moves more air and will be louder so if you've got cranky neighbors it's not the best purchase

okay kids, a 2x12 doesn't really get that much louder than a 1x12, it moves more air but the extra air its moving doesn't translate to SPL uniformly. From a neighbor perspective all that SPL dissipates before it gets through the walls to them, okay? Its ouder on axis, int eh same room, standing close enough for the extra sound pressure to overcome air friction... the main thing is a 1x12 with a high wattage speaker is easier to move aorund.

I use 2x12s even at home because I have really great old speakers. lots of them. And in the 60s and 70s speakers didn't handle more than 30 or 40 watts other than like JBL. I have to use two of them tohandle the fury of my louder amps.

The OP is not going to be using 60s and 70s celestions and fanes though. He's on a budget. A 1x12 will be fine. His biggest problem is that msot high handling speakers are highly effeicient and will be louder than low efficiency speakers watt for watt. But if eh's not trying to push the things into speaker distortion like some of us do, then he's fine, just turn the amp down a bit if needed. THe mesa cab probably has a 75 or80 watt celestion stock and that'll breakup if you nail it with 50 or 60 watts, but those are more clen speakers with an agressive frequency response, although not as a gressive as say a vintage 30. Anyway, it'll do the business for a lot of dudes. I'm fussy, but I'm old. Anything the OP tries will e an improvement. I would personally be looking at the emsa and consider swapping the stock speaker for an ultra-light neodymium speaker to make the cab lighter if I needed to transport it on the subway or something. With the microblock that's a toneful, portable rig that won't break the bank.

I gotta go to power trio practice ina few, I'll get back to you tonight... feel free to load me with technical questions, I'll answer them.