markkauz's forum posts 13

How about that, turns out I can. I'll have to not let that power go to my head ;)

Depends on how bored I am with the holiday at home winding down but I'll try to get descriptions loaded in for a few things I've requested lately.

Oh, one last note, there's a typo in the OM. It says Pre-Ware not Pre-War.

Hey, I'm totally game for this level of accuracy (and trust me I know I can barely imagine the level of inaccuracy or carelessness people come to the site with, which would drive me crazy as someone obsessed with small details) so if you want to keep them separate since we have them, might as well. If someone's wrong about it, well they got it wrong.

I don't fault you for not wanting to break it out into tonewoods, etc. at this point. But I'm glad you agreed with the fact that a dread vs a 000 is significantly different enough that they shouldn't be together. I think a dread, 000, 00, and 0 should be easy enough for someone to identify, especially if they're paying close enough attention and knowledgable to know that a beat up guitar with no logo on a headstock MIGHT be a Pre-War.

Thanks for your hard work. And if you're like me at all, at the very least you'll have enjoyed learning a little bit about this.

Just to clarify further why I'd go that way, body sizes have a marked difference on sound, volume, and play style. Tone woods too but I would argue not as much as the body size. I think you'd find people getting a lot closer this way. You could consolidate the OM/000 though, that would be harder to tell.

Understood. I would suggest the opposite in this case, removing the Herringbone from the 000 entry or any others as they primarily refer to the herringbone on their website as a D-28-style guitar. So I would do the following:

-Herringbone -Dreadnought -OM -000 -00 -0

That would be also in general how I would categorize down Martin guitars, most broadly, so I think that's the strongest argument. You leave out the tonewood but at least removes an extra 4 instruments. I do think the fact that the Herringbone and Dreadnought being their two most popular models means we should separate them out.

hah and if you look at the url for the Slope Shoulder you'll see they used to call it a Model-J since it was made to emulate an old Gibson Jumbo.

Sorry for the slow response. I'll try to clarify but sorry if this is too much info or too obvious I apologize. I could see how it's confusing for folks not acoustic players but I think once you're around enough it's pretty understandable. But I agree, they've not been consistent across their site.

So they make a few models in a few configurations all of which could be added to the database if we don't have them because they're being used by more notable musicians each year. They are as follows: -Herringbone -Dreadnought -12-Fret Dreadnought -Slope Shoulder (which we already have) -Triple-0/OM (Really should be two different things because they have different scale lengths but on their website they list them as one tab since the body sizes are the same) (I believe this is on the database) -Double Aught (00) -Single-0

Their guitars replicate old Martin's (and in one instance a Gibson). Because of copyright reasons they can't call it a D-28 but the Herringbone is made to replicate the pre-war Martin D-28's known as Herringbones for their herringbone trim. D-28s originally had Brazilian rosewood back/sides but now are made with a variety of rosewoods. A D-18, however, would be mahogany, and it's what they choose to just call a Dreadnought for copyright reasons. I guess they assume that their customers would know two guitars were called herringbone vs dreadnought they'd be able to figure the differences.

The issue is that a 28 style could also be found in a OM-28, 000-28, 00-28, 0-28 (all with rosewood) or the same in 18 style for mahogany. On their site they don't list these differently, they just ask what wood you want. If you pull images for these, you'll notice a more intricate binding around the edge of the herringbone versions.

I guess it's up to you what you'd like to do with the OM/000, 00, and 0. The dreads are easier because they list them separately. I was just going to post that Molly Tuttle, David Grier, Mandolin Orange and others use dreadnought and herringbone guitars.

Maybe this doesn't help at all hah. But

Mods can you please add

Item: Pre-War Guitars Co. Dreadnought Link: https://www.pre-warguitars.com/model-d

Note, this is distinct from the previous requests as this is a non-rosewood dreadnought. They differentiate the two by the names I listed.

Mods can you please add:

Item: Pre-War Guitars Co. Herringbone Link: https://www.pre-warguitars.com/herringbone

Thanks to you and pkennethk! Been on a spree adding some easy-to-identify guitars to some musicians so I appreciate your help!

Hello mods, can you please add:

Name: Pre-War Guitars Co. Slope Shoulder Image: https://www.pre-warguitars.com/model-j

Mods can you please add:

Name: Mark Whitebook Dreadnought Image: https://www.trilogyguitars.com/2017-mark-whitebook

Mark Whitebook is a famous luthier who made around 70 guitars in the 1970s for famous musicians and then retired, only recently coming back to build more.

More info here: https://www.fretboardjournal.com/podcasts/podcast-151-luthier-mark-whitebook/

Mods can you please add

Name: Olson Parlor Guitar

Image: https://olsonguitars.com/the-art/guitar-models/guitar-model-parlor/

This is luthier James Olson's only 12-fret acoustic model and is played in a custom variation by James Taylor so I'm looking to add it.