Adding PRO feature down?

Hi there!

Can you let me know the name of the pro artist you're trying to add? I'll look into the issue.

Yup, that's the issue. Sorry you were getting an error message, that's a bug we need to fix on our end.

As far as converting, that gets messy so we stopped doing that. A good way to handle it would be to change the username of the existing member, something like "jasonwhitehornofficial" or "jasonwhitehornmusic", so that the username will be free to be used by a pro. Does that make sense?

Ok cool, try creating the pro Jason Whitehorn again. It should work. If it doesn't let me know and we'll keep digging. :)

In the not too distant future we'll expand genres, or at least add the ability to add more "tags." Apologies, but for now you'll have to stick to the genres currently available.

I think tags are a good idea! there are too many genres and sub-genres in the wider music world already. Its so confusing and most of us creating music, especially we bedroom/project studio indie types? we're always busy trying to fuse even fairly disparate and obvious genres and obliterate boundaries. And a genre like 'Christian rock' is a really artificial boundary. Its just rock music with a very specific set of lyrical concerns. From a marketing standpoint I get it, Crhistians want to know that there's rock music that expresses their point of view rather than, say, Iron Maiden who would be directly opposite (even if they're tongue in cheek), but this isn't a record store. This is a place for musicians and other music business specialists to congregate and share knowledge and just generally bullshit. I gotta say I don't give a fig about whats int he lyrics of a song as long as their good so to me and all of the guys I know 'Christian rock' as a genre is kinda pointless. It has no musical perspective and is a category for a more commercial, consumer/fan driven site. I'll cringe if we add more genres, I like how we have a tiny handful of broad umbreallas right now and that a diverse artist might get to shelter under 2 or 3 of them. But if you want tags, like the subgenres on soundcloud that cue people who care about that stuff? I say more power to you we should have those tags here because I can ignore them if I want and have my classic, musician-centric equipboard whereas a more casual musician who is more of a fan can really be looking at those tags from his or her consumer standpoint...

I would like to see Christian Contemporary and Metal added to that genre list. All the metal entries I just added as rock. As for Christian artists, I add them based on their sound. MercyMe for example would fall under Rock, Pop, and R&B.

I'll give you metal as a genre that's now distinct from the broader rock genre in some ways and we could do that. From a gear perspective it has genre specific needs generally. I'm not seeing Christian Contemporary as too distinct from a musical and technical aspect than adult contemporary and the elss urban pop and more modern mainstream country. This is a gear site and the lyrical content doesn't effect the equipment needs, right? Think of it from a tech angle and my POV might make sense to you...

but hey, opinions are like assholes! we all have them and some days they stink

Contemporary Christian is a sum of many genres; pop, hip-hop, rap, country, rock, etc. I am 50/50 on CCM as a genre. As I said before, I have added people based on what genres they play within CCM. Metal I would fight for though.

I have to be honest here. I use (and was initially drawn to this site) to see what musicians use to get their sound. It is an equipment site.

Christian music is not defined by what equipment they use. It is a record store category, a marketing beacon... the star in the record store that followers can flock to safely.

I agree with Jim and Boom here in equal parts. If a genre is defined by it's distinct sounds and tonal characteristics, it should be part of the Equipboard genres. Metal, lullaby, trance, thrash, polka, golden oldies.... these are definable genres that you can make a tangible auditory link to at the mere mention of them.

If you cannot make that solid tangible tonal link... not an Equipboard suitable genre.

Christian music is not defined by what equipment they use. It is a record store category, a marketing beacon... the star in the record store that followers can flock to safely.

this is what I'm saying... its a niche marketing tag that Chaldean astronologers, Syrian shepherds and Midwestern farmer's children can all follow to the inn.... but, like, there's not any room there and the story is apocryphal.... okay okay, tangent tangent... umm, but really, I would say trance isn't a distinct enough genre even.... metal is the only rock sub genre that's so specific and specialized from the rest of rock these days that it might need its own EB category. On this site its 100% about equipment and methods. Emphasis on performance or psot productions.... just, like? GOSPEL? that's a Christian genre that's more distinct in tis approach than cotemporary Christian music. Or it was back in the day, its a little more homogenous these days and I should know, I used to have a job mixing the service at a massive gospel church in an abandoned theater.

alright alright, I'll stop.... but when is music just going to be music again between us, the music makers?

When I think trance I think washy synths and reverbed out drum machines.

that's like a lot of stuff.... tis more delay and droning arpegiators with the LFOs sweeping the filter foolishly though.... kidna like the more compelx acid hosue (hardfloor) without all the skill needed to do it right and without any legit 303... ugh

oh yeah, and the jp8080 supersaw/pwm with lots of delay breakdown? that's an important trance thing.... or did I mean 'veajdown' ? even trance needs a veajdown

but the whole trance thing is sketchy.... all the dance genres bleed together, especially the 4 on the Floor ones, and I really don't know who comes up with these trendy terms for them

actually I wanna split some of those combo categories like world music with country? not right... you're just new to the site, although the gear is really starting to overlap between Nashville and LA, dude... its crazyhow incestuous mainstream pop/country ahs become with pop, rock, r&b and some hip hop.... listen to a joe diffy record and prepare to scratch your head as to what sort of music it really is.... it takes the kid rock thing another step

I think you're trying tot weak me but tis not going to work... I made a pretty cogent point about the focus of a gear site and you kinda just changed the topic and made a winky face at me or whatever

but seriously, what makes Christian contemporary music distinct is lyrical content, so that's like sub-categorizing gangsta rap versus old school hip hop because NWA started talking about the realities of the streets in Compton whereas Sugarhill Gang was talking about block parties and just exhorting the audience to have a good time. But for our purposes the style is rap/hip-hop

I'm not for a separate punk rock category and that'sore distinctive ins tyle than Christian contemporary and rock music much of the time.... but tis not distinct from mainstream rock ing ear. Hell, its barely distinct from a lot of country unless there's a lap steel player on a country album these days.

y'know, I am typing this and wondering whyw e needed genres at all as a site for musicians and engineers... the whole discussion is kidna stupid.... this site's not for regular music consumers and the hard kernel of our regular user base is made up of extreme enthusiasts and working or retired professionals.... but people who are kidna past this marketing stuff, past WHAT and into HOW

these are just artificial distinctions designed to market records.... which is silly now since no one makes any money selling records and there's no more brick and mortar record stores with those little cards stuck in between the vinyl giving a genre

this whole conversation is feeling nuttier and nuttier from my musician's perspective (well, that and because I am mainly having it with myself).... the way I mix a hip hop record is not so different from what I do with a rock band.... I might have some dancefloor considerations for the rap song, but I am using the same plugins and gear.... its just immaterial. Its good or its weak, I like it or I don't and the genre is just kinda incidental to me as a 25+ year musician

I don't come here to discuss WHAT, its about HOW... if it turns into a fan site I'll stop coming

yes and no. genres help so people see what kind of use those guitars/basses/equipment/bullshit get. thus, rock should be split into like rock, metal, punk, pop/rock, etc.

'proper' genre.... you work at a label or management company don't you? I mean, whois the arbiter of whats proper in the arts? there's always some critic or executive SAYING theya re the arbiter, but I don't remember voting for those people.

I am voting to do away with genres in all but the broadest sense or make them optional. I wouldn't want a genre stuck to me on here. Hell, not in a record store either! I reluctantly stick them on my soundcloud and even then I might put like 20 because I am ahrd pressed to select as I will use elements from all corners of my broad musical taste and experience at every stage of a song from conception to mixing.