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another mystery genre song, AWESOME! HEARITBITCHES!

I deleted the 1st draft, see below for rough mix of final track... way better! nd the original version wasn't so shabby

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This is so good. I think it needs to be reeled in and focused up a bit in terms of structure. With good vocals on it'd be absolutely killer. Are the drums electronic or real?

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drums? mostly electronic,, but there's a loop from my stash that's all room mics on a delay and through flanging, EQ, bandpass filtering, dirty compression etc that's live playing and I used that to set the swing for all the drums on the track..., but the bass and such is programmed with alternate swing, leading 16th notes instead of lagging, though most of tis in 8ths

there's a huge amount of processed DR55 kick and highoassed drumulator kick in here too... my 1st two drum machines still tickle me 20 odd years later... both of those machines have really lame/dated kick sounds on their own, but used together they are very interesting... the great thing about the old analog roland machines is if you lock in a 4 on the floor every kick will record a little different and when you loops that you automatically get some 'live' variation but with that 808 kinda tone... the emu is obviously lofi samples, like a poor man's linndrum and the sounds are really mid 80s studio sounds with gated reverb built in and everything and a real lack of dance-music thump whereas all the dr55 has is throbbing low end, no attack at all even when you treat it like an 808 kick... you get the idea, serious nerd stuff here! Its just really fun to use the 55 as a trigger for the emu and loop up the results instead of pasting samples... why have the same kick as everyone else doing dance oriented stuff?

I am flattered that you have no idea what's live playing and what's sequenced.... tis so mixed for ever instrument

and all the hand percussion is live played by yours truly and looped, but its heavily treated with filters, ring mod, pitch shift, etc

my methods are hard to explain, like the whole drum bus is distorted to high heaven and compressed like hell but in parallel... tel_nobody said ithe drums sounded too polite last week so I pumped the stereo mix out into some effects pedals and then back in through a compression and folded it back at a low sample rate with the clean version 50/50I know a lot of tricks, listen to my whole soundcloud and learn

and yes, tis a 1st draft, I need to get the transitions smoother and do some level adjust, riding the faders but pre vocal I don't wanna do too much

this is based on that WORK IT animated gif, the lyrics are like: work it, push it, work it harder etc etc

I literally 'wrote' this to the sequncer/DAW, just flying by the seat of my pants a few bars at a time and not thinking... Zach and I have had this 10 minutes a day project going where you just print whatever your instincts tell you too and keep going... so far its been good to me whether the song is done or not

oh, and more importantly, thanks!

I was trying to homage garbage's 1st/2nd albums but also the who, sheep on drugs, chemlab and KMFDM as well as pastiche some very early house music from the music box era back when it hadn't veered off so far from stuff like frnakie goes to Hollywood... by the time I was hearing house music it was definitely the full on acid thing or it was slick r&b influenced stuff like 10city, all the new wave was gone

I did a lot of nutty stuff with this... misuse of outboard and plugins. Th whole thing was inspired by the lick played through an old frontman DIed from the speaker output inot a eureaka but I split it and blended some tempo synced moog filter back in via a sans amp... it was crazy, just making noise to inspire better music.... in the end I did more normal recording, like the straight les paul into traynor recording, but man, prior I was going nuts using all my toys on every source... guitar preamps coloring VSTi's etc just way out there

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crazy riff! love it

Thanks. Its just the whole tone scale, but i played it with ferocity through a weird sound... I thik I spent longer making the guitar sound (it was even asntier during tracking) than I did actually playing the part.... this was like some 1 take johnny shit.

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this seemed a lot better yesterday when I was blaring it on the hifi system instead of my studio monitoring setup while drinking wine and cooking short ribs... its got a lot of weird spots because of the cut and paste approach to writing I tried. Hrm

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You've poured fx on the mix like honey and wax on kinky sex, but you've left that acoustic naked.

Treat it til it's mistreated.

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nah, that acoustic is super high passed, compressed really hard, run through a harmonizer on a delay, recombined and compressed some more and then given plenty of reverb send! But I could do more I guess, whadaya have in mind? you were really helpful with the drum sound

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Well, it is still very identifiable as an acoustic. Maybe throw an underlying mirror track with 100% wet reverse reverb and some jet flanging or fuzz phasing...not to replace the acoustic, but to give it filth and some real presence. REEEEAL slow sweep

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The acoustic is an elephant in the room with the warped processing flooding everything else. Gorillaz Feel Good Inc. kinda moment in a song that is full of drive and power and pound and doesn't need a Feel Good kinda moment.

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hmmm, I like the idea of flanging it... I am going to try that.... and maybe the drop out on the 2nd chorus I could flange everything, the whole track and manually sweep it down until it all comes back in

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particularly the acoustic... it is like the song was hurtling down the freeway then stopped short to let a busker cross the road...

But if that incorporated this WILD sweep that really grabbed at everything and drew it all along.. but the acoustic shouldn't just sound acoustic... the rest of the song is pure madness.... that wild extended bend F# that lurches into the main riff just gurgles with excitement...there is soo much going on... then that brilliant crack crack snare.... momentum achieved...ride the wave!

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I took the acoustic track, put it thru a phaser plugin set with no modulation, manually swept it across 4 bars (depth to 10 real fast, then slowly back down) and saved the automation, then pasted it across every chorus, distorted only the true midrange and ran some RMS compression across it to make the whole effect squeeze the sound.... way less 'normal' now.... its up real loud in the mix at the moment, but I think it'll come down soon

also, pacing-wise, I am thinking the 1st chorus would be a better place for the 'busker' drop out, once the song builds up itnertia it shouldn't mellow out, should it? the 2nd verse should slam right into the double chorus and then maybe a repetitive outro off the Am/C/D/D9 change from the 1st 4 chorus bars.... maybe a fuzzy, nasty guitar solo at the end (though I have been actively avoiding guitar solo, rockist type stuff on the electronic music up until now)

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the nearly done version:

god this has been fun to make... so many guitars, synths, drum machines, samples, effects, plugins gah! and just nutty ideas employed making it happen... hardest electronic piece I've ever done

SPECIAL THANKS TO TEL_NOBODY for all his input!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you helped arrange and mix this one, dude. Couldn't have done it without you. You are the man!

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Honoured to be able to help. It's a great song and you should be proud of it.

To think that this was inspired by a gchiaren gif!!!

I suggested some pretty wacky stuff (on top of what was already your own pre-existing wacky stuff) and you took it on board and created a cool little piece.

Knowing (and understanding) your musical background and training, this must have been a bit confronting at times... you challenged yourself beyond comfort on this one and made a little piece of magic.

I think I need to dedicate one day a week during uni season to music... call it therapy if you will....

If I do, do you think you and xaqary can let me play along?

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yeah sure, its fine with me... I mean, its just like this loose exchange of ideas between colleagues. Just me, Zach and Kyja right now but you're kinda involved in the sense that I bounce ideas off you separately. Zach and Kyja are more involved on the vocal front right now, but that will change any time. Its just anything goes, swapping track on google drive :-)

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yeah... I have been re addressing the vocal approach for try. Currently working an octave higher, like "My Tumor" and "Fickle". I will flick through what I come up with of course.

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