Complaints, Concerns, Errors, Suggestions, and Ideas!

Nah, you delete with the little tiny 'X' next to the move arrows... I have sold and traded stuff since joining in June (I'm not strictly in the gear acquisition business!) and I promptly delete it from my board in a spirit of full disclosure.

EDIT: "Nearly 1000 submissions have been approved in the last week"

Is this normal for this site, or is EB having a sudden burst of submissions and/or members?

This site had like 100-150 submissions a day beyond the ones that were being reviewed and added. Over a weekend, we'd have 300 or so more to try and fight back. Because we changed the format of how submissions are made, the numbers have stopped and miggity and the rest have nearly wiped out the huge number that hadn't been accepted yet.

I think those two you mentioned's submissions have the review tag on them because they were added after the format change. I believe the items stay on the artists' pages though so that's a plus. Eventually, I believe we will have a system in place where if multiple members in good standing accept the evidence of the artist using the item, then it will be accepted. This system will likewise work for inaccurate items. Members can all rally and down vote an item off an artists page.

"fighting back the submissions" -- I like that phrase, Boom... I have been a moderator on quite a few sites over the years and the workload is unreal and you do it all for free... NEVER again. It got overwhelming when I was an irresponsible young man aged 25, at 35 it is just unthinkable. You guys on Equipboard do a bang-up job. I understand people's frustration at the apparent slowness, but EB is more complicated than a BBS. Its like editing an encyclopedia of technical data and statistics with thousands of contributors who don't always get their facts straight or check for typos. I am surprised everyone is managing the work load as well as they are.

Cheers

http://equipboard.com/items/line-6-tap-tremolo?src=pim_img

Is it possible to change this? I just spotted it right now, and it disappointinga me that it hasn't been categorised.

Fixed

Big post of stuff that I screwed up at.

http://equipboard.com/pros/dayshell

That needs to be destroyed.

Destroyed. Funny, that's the actual term we use when taking that action.

http://equipboard.com/pros/adam-thompson/fender-american-nashville-b-bender-tele-electric-guitar

Correction.

http://equipboard.com/pros/adam-thompson/boss-dd-20-giga-delay-digital-delay-pedal

Turns out the camera was a douche and made me think that was Adam's. Needs to be removed.

I'm not 100% clear on what needs to happen here. Do both submissions need to be destroyed?

One other thing, I've noticed that many artists aren't aligned to their appropriate bands.

Also: http://equipboard.com/pros/mark-smith

Mark Smith is the guitarist from Explosions in the Sky.

Edit: Case in point: http://equipboard.com/pros/tom-cowan He's the bassist and keyboardist of the Horrors.

To date, we've done most of the band assignments using APIs from The Echo Nest and Freebase. It's a little fuzzy on the matching, with occasional mistakes and omissions, but it was a good way to seed things.

We do plan on creating options that will allow the community to create and edit artist->band relationships. I don't have an ETA on that, but we're hard at work making our way through the backlog of things that need to be improved to make Equipboard even more awesome. I promise we'll get to it!

http://equipboard.com/items/marshall-jcm-800-2210-100w

Silly EB, I said Marshall JCM 800 2203, not 2210.

It's now a 2203. :)

http://equipboard.com/pros/radical-face

Ben Cooper head Radical Face and is a member of two other bands. As such, this should be deleted.

I've destroyed Radical Face.

http://equipboard.com/pros/jamie-hewlett

This guy makes draws stuff. He's not a musician.

How did he even get on this site?

Destroyed.

I wish I could easily drag and drop the stuff on my equipboard to change the order it appears in. I have so much music junk that the arrow system is becoming a PITA...

The arrows are a PITA. Drag and drop would be cool. Not sure it'd make it to the top of the list of things that need to be done just yet.

Personally, I'd love for all my gear to be categorized like on Pro pages.

http://equipboard.com/pros/mike-kerr/ampeg-svt-basscombo

http://equipboard.com/pros/mike-kerr/ampeg-svt-guitar-combo

This submission bothers me on unwanted levels.

Yeah, those aren't great. Are they correct? Can that gear be spotted in the photo on the linked source page? If so, I'm happy to go in and edit it.

Letting the community rate the quality of submissions, and adding editing features, is one of the big things we're working on right now.

http://equipboard.com/pros/erez-eisen

http://equipboard.com/pros/amit-duvedevani

These two should be deleted. The duo of Infected Mushroom share the same equipment and work together, therefore they should be considered one whole.

Done!

It can be denied, but no one seems to be doing that.

You know what, have you noticed that the moderators seems to be extremely biased about accepting submissions? It's not all, actually it's austinmw and miggityfriggity. They keep accepting submissions from a few people REALLY quickly, and everyone else still need their submissions reviewed. It really bothers me, and I've been holding this in for some time.

I'm sure there's probably some natural bias. When I've moderated submissions, it's usually less work when it's a submission from someone I've interacted with repeatedly and come to trust as a reliable and accurate contributor.

We've recently changed the system up though. All submissions are going live immediately now, without moderation. We're flagging them as "Needs Review" on the artist page, and we'll be introducing a new system for editing and rating the quality of submissions in the coming weeks.

At least Boom acts like a human and talks. Haven's seen Sims or gchiaren in some time, though. All the other moderators look like they haven't been on the site for some time.

I'm sorry, that rant was uncalled for...

Boom is awesome. gchiaren does all the programming, so we have him locked in a closet pushing out code 12 hours a day. We occasionally let him out for coffee and bathroom breaks.

Okay, a few things to comment on this.

1. Nearly 1000 submissions have been approved in the last week and nearly all of them are miggity and austin. A lot of work is done on the site that doesn't necessarily show up to members.In fact, I may have done the least of all mods and admin so far. I used to get frustrated that out of 800 submissions, miggity had already seen 600 of them, reviewed them, and had spoken with the member who submitted it :) . That dude is really on the ball.

We all have our different roles and of course different schedules in the real world. Rest assured, all things get worked out eventually. Being given the opportunity to be a moderator for this site really opened my eyes up to many things. Where I thought things just weren't getting done I realized that the shear amount of content, fixes, and programming is overwhelming. A famous quote sums it up, "The harvest truly is plenteous, but the laborers are few;".

1. Submissions are about to be submissable by members, if they aren't already.

2. Many times, members don't check on their submission status and if there isn't enough proof to make a submission, one of the staff will come through and ask for more content or help finding a make/model or etc. If you are finding that your submission hasn't been made yet, please check the status of it on your profile page. There may be a BUNCH of notes and comments from the mods mentioned above ;)

I'd also like to leave you an example of the work just 1 submission requires on average. I am guilty of all the things below as well when I was a member.

Member submission: "Guitar is CLEARLY seen in video" or "DUDE uses this item" Submits 17 minute video without using YouTube "Start From" feature.

Mod's Part: Where in this giant video is the guitar he's talking about... wait... there are 3 guitarists in this band? Which one is DUDE? Lemme go on google and look at the member list of the band.... oh okay, the guy with the beard is who he is talking about... okay.... hmmm.. That guitar looks different than the one they submitted. I'll leave a note and see if they can show me another video or something.

This is often the end of the experience if the member doesn't check on the status :( If the submission is legit however, the mod then has to reformat the entire submission, select a photo of the item, list who uses it, what band they are in, and type up a bit about it. Sometimes this can take anywhere from 3 minutes to 20 if the submission requires a lot of digging and re-writing.

I'm not posting this in a negative light or even a judgmental one. My hope is just to share enough of whats going on that everyone will be more willing to exercise patient and understanding.

In Short...

Things will be fixed eventually

Please respect the staff for the work they do

Do keep posting errors, concerns, and suggestions. That's why this thread exists!

Did I already say Boom was awesome? OK, just checking. :D

EDIT: "Nearly 1000 submissions have been approved in the last week"

Is this normal for this site, or is EB having a sudden burst of submissions and/or members?

We've had some 1000+ submission weeks recently.

Thank you!

Yeah Simfonik, it was trying to move my gear into a semblance of order like the pro pages that got me wanting drag and drop in the first place.

Yeah, those aren't great. Are they correct? Can that gear be spotted in the photo on the linked source page? If so, I'm happy to go in and edit it. Not specifically in the photo, but in this interview, titled "Royal Blood's Mike Kerr talks power duo rocking".

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/royal-bloods-mike-kerr-talks-power-duo-rocking-600211

Quote from the interview: "Sorry, man. The amps I use are all Ampegs. I use an SVT bass amp and two GVT guitar amps. I just found that they aren't making the GVTs anymore, so if you know anyone who's got some, let me know – I need some spares." -Mike Kerr

If you'd like, I can make a new submission in the correct manner, and you can just delete those two old submissions.

y'know, it might be a good idea to categorize the forum... even if tis just by instrument type, so the "Humbucker" thread I posted would go into guitar/bass instead of general and then that guy who posted "Old school vs new school gear for beginners" would have posted it in synthesizers (or some similar category) so that I knew what sort of rig/home-studio problems I was going to be interrogated about before I even read his original psot.

Definitely agree. I've had my fair share of forums, and it would be nice to see a new Pinterest-style forum that's organised :D