My new song is ready for Vocals, YOU NEED TO HEAR THIS

I wasn't sure where to post this because its not precisely electronic/club music nor is it purely guitar music.... its not electronic, its not acoustic, its not rock its not this its not that but its all of those things at once:

I rarely listen to my stuff once its this far down the pike, but I can't turn this off. I don't feel like its mine.... or something, I dunno

special thanks to Xaqary and Tel_Nobody for all their helpful advice and general supportiveness as I realized this one which I think is completely above and beyond the usual crap I pump out

I like it!

The drums are a bit to made up digitally for my taste. The could be a bit smoother in the back. I don't want to sound harsh but they sound a bit like these drum basics some keyboards have. Just not that special, a bit too mechanic and a too present. The rest is good. I don't know how to explain this the right way. I love the guitars on the verses. There's some cool 90's indie vibe to it. Like it. Not sure how vocals will work on this one since the chorus/b-part is kind of a break to the laid back atmosphere of the verses. Kinda reminds a bit of the Pumpinks back when they were good. Not sure if this was helpful or at least articulated well. I'm not used to give song feedback in English.

Pure Smashing Pumpkins vibes (Mellon Collie ones) in that one! Love it, absolute stunner! It heavily reminds me of "1979" though, it has this synth interplay, weird bridgey type of thing... In 90's, if you would find a vocal for this, you could've made an absolute hit with that. Did you drown your guitar in chorus for some parts?

you think when the vocal is in I should crank the drum bus down? I like the meachnaical drum machine rhythms where it's all samples and drum machine in the bridge and refrain, so that isn't slamming, but my love of kratwerkian rhythm may have made me crank it up too far! and YES, goal was to combine poppy cure tunes with 1979 and a hint of Missing Persons and/or Simple Minds.... the song dictated it

its a DOD analog chorus pedal to the input, yes, but I actuallry ran my preamp to the computer, recorded, treated with comb filtering and impulse responses and then slammed the processed signal into the power amp and speaker cab and re-recorded with a condenser a foot or 2 off.. or 3 or 4... the electric guitars are mostly my matchless, but I used a tele and 2 difierent Gibson SGs... maybe an old 335 or LP in there too... I have like 20 guitars to select from I also used the power amp input on my traynor and the unmodded channels to add parallel grit tracks for lots of sounds

oh, and my tweed pro makes an appearance on bass with my neighbors old EB3

the rhythm guitar is an SM57 on a classical slammed into a preamp, compressed hard and then whacked into a frequency modulated and tempo opened minimoog filter before I printed it... the bridge is an SG tickling a fuzzface I built into an mxr badass od slamming into the DI and preamp and recorded at low sample rate to increase the grit

my recording golden rule is EXPERIMENT! know the parts but don't be slavish to normal methods BECAUSE if it sounds good it is good so PRINT IT! I treat everything like tape because I grew up on tape.

sufficed to say I made a lot of noise doing this song

its also a rough mix, I redo the whole balance once I am comping and mixing the vocal... it till come soon! big drums help a singer be on beat with punchy song like this and I want her to give me

not being defensiv, just saying, rough mix! I said rough mix in the track title! I can't finish witour finished vocals.... its a holistic artform

I think it's your best work yet. I imagine some high Bono style vocals over it.

In 90's, if you would find a vocal for this, you could've made an absolute hit with that.

I can't let go of the 90s, I was your age in the late 80s and early 90s and though I was too Gen-X to admit it then, it was the time of my life and I wish I could go back and do it again... nothing since has had the same feeling... so I can recapture that amazing time in song, and yes, this is a piece of pure nostalgia from an aging hipster

I think it's your best work yet. I imagine some high Bono style vocals over it.

aww, thanks Boom, I thought you would hate this and have been bracing myself for your scathing response and hoping I could learn from it

actually as of today it will have female vocals, high, with me doubling an octave down and doing some harmony, but I am waiting for the singer to give 100% go ahead on doing the lead

and yes, aside from The Cure, The Pumpkins etc? there's some U2 Achtung baby in it

Sounds like a soundtrack for something, I can't quite place it.

Pretty good. Wasn't a fan of the shimmer tone, but that's just my opinion. Great work as always, Jim.

This song is very cool. It sounds like a Prodigy song, but very tame. I like it.

Very nice arrangement.

That has polished up nicely sir, you should be smiling at this one.

I have noticed a distinct lack of cymbals... my head keeps hearing washed out heavy 'verbed crashes at the turn of each phrase... obvious exclusion?

So glad you got a vocalist, was about to pen you a set of lines that were to sound like a Robert Smith and Billy Corgan duet!

yeah, I don't know, when I do drum machine stuff and use loops I tend to shy away from crash and ride... there are crashes in the bridge

Although these times are gobshite for teenagers, I'll so miss 00's and 10's. Yet this sounds so weird, it's like I'm from the beginning of the 20th century. If you find a proper vocal, this will go big. There is still commendable amount of people who listen to such music.

it was weird, the media cultural shift that occurred at the end of the 90s seemed to really hit local music here in the latter half of the 00s, prior to about 2007 there was kind this continuation and expansion of the 90s at least through all the sub-cultures, it evolved a little but I didn't start to feel a real generation gap and whole paradigm shift where 'the kids' had moved on and I was left in the dust until I was getting pretty old there. There was one day when I was on tour where I'm like "I missed a beat somewhere and I'm okay with it because these young bands on the bill suck and this stupid dubstep music they play in clubs sucks.... and now the goth scene sounds like a rave with bad lyrics over the shitty trance music.... I could swear I was still cool a few months ago, WTF?! I guess the world stopped being cool and I just refuse to to go along with it."

the whole change started with nu metal, Britney spears and the sort of hiphop that turned gangsta rap into something safe, catchy and marketable to more than black people and disaffected suburban kids -- but it took awhile tog et past my TV and really effect my life

I just try to deny that popular culture has moved on... other than game of thrones I can't think of much in the media to like for the last 10 or 20 years. Okay okay, westworld was cool.... but notice all the music the player piano played was 90s stuff? Radiohead, NIN.... anyway

fuck, way off on a tangent.... I am soldiering on in the direction I think music shoulda gone and that's that. I think I pretty much decided that was my position a long time ago!

That was a big but understandable (and valid) tangent. Everyone just needs to drink whiskey and have a good time now.

My suffering gets me half way drunk.

I'm going to pass on the whiskey, last time I had bourbon I got really stupid, it was not a good time.... I can't hold my whiskey anymore, I drink it too fast. I'll stick with martinis if we're drinking hard stuff. They go down SLOOOOW so I know when to stop. Which is important because I can be a real dick when I have one too many. I'm fun, I'm fun, ZAP I'm a jerk and should go home and go to bed.

i just found this and I love it.