System Of A Down new album coming soon!!

Hopefully have a new album out this year. This article is from last year now so just hoping!

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/new_soad_album_hopefully_coming_in_2015_band_working_on_new_music.html

people still record and release full-length albums? wow, that's good news

been 10 years since the last one though

I was just saying in general that the LP is a dead medium for better or for worse... but I guess a new SoaD album is cool. they ain't ever going to top toxicity so they coulda just quit. Anything else they do will just be overproduced dreck or retreading the same narrow lane they started out in. Metal, like punk, is so limiting. If you get too expansive with it you lose the edge... Toxicity was so cool though. great, dry sound in the Steve Albini vein but with louder vocals. They did cool things with time changes and such without getting too prog rock. It reminded me of a new York hardcore record than a metal album. It had none of the wankery and dick measuring but all of the interesting shit of say a tool record.... in your face even when the dynamic was low. Hard to repeat and impossible to top I think.

I still love buying CDs though I almost only buy them used off amazon these days for as little as 1p LOL I think that Toxicity is a hard one to beat but I like that all their albums are different and it just doesn't get boring. They claim the new album will be nothing like anything they have done before which will be cool. I love Serjs solo stuff and I love the stuff Daren did with Scars On Broadway. Everything the guys from System Of A Down done together and separately sounds great to me and stands out and has also influenced my playing alot especially Scars On Broadway

speak for yourself. I can't get through any of their other material. Toxicity had a vibe all its own. It managed to be modern in conception and old-school in completion. The other albums are different indeed. You can't make the same record twice but I don't need to hear anything else from SoaD. I'm good with Toxicity. I honestly thought they broke up.

Then again, I felt pretty oorly about most of Era Vulgaris and thought the 1st 3 albums were all QoTSA had to offer til I bothered listening to the most recent record and was pleasantly surprised, so maybe a new SoAD record will blow the top of my head off. But its unlikely. They're just not that versatile as musicians from what I can hear. They probably suffer from the metal curse of narrow proficiency.

I really enjoyed Memorize. The tracks are too short and the lyrics are nonsense for most of them though. I feel it's the opposite of Toxicity. The other side of a rare coin to Toxicity.

I guess I can see that "other side of the coin" analogy with those 2 records. Its still not to my taste nad just pales in comparison to Toxicity for my own listening pleasure. As short as the song were I skipped through many of them upon 1st listen seeking some highlights before settling in to try to embrace the whole album. Always a bad sign with me as I am NOT a new-school, track skipper by nature. Having grown up on vinyl and cassette I usually don't reach for the skip button on a cd player or mp3 player unless I am TOTALLY bored.

I hope it does come out, though I'm sceptical, as to whether it will, or be good in any sense. I really can't wait to see if the tool album will come out, and at this point it does seem they're waiting 10,000 days for the next album! I'm lateraluslly so mad!

I was looking forward to the next TOOL until a week or so ago. I saw a video of the tour they put on through Texas. Maynard's voice can't hardly hit the notes anymore. Something about the video just made me step back from them a bit... like... I've seen this card trick too many times before to cheer.

I will reserve judgement until it comes out... whenever that is.

Can you attach a link, I'm curious to see this? I've always been an MJK sceptic, he ruins the band's vibe, rarely acts normally on stage, and is very temperamental. They could be a lot of a bigger band in the alt/prog metal scene at the moment, if he didn't act like an idiot, and tell the crowd to dig wholes and start f*cking, while dressed in a bikini. He's a lot more suited to some crappy punk band not concerned with image.

he ruins the band's vibe? apart from my questions about what the fuck that even means I really wonder what tool would be without him. His unique vocal adds a lot to what they are doing. The music is creative and the performance proficient, but the stand out vocal and original lyrical content really helps sell tool to non-metal peeps like me.

Anyway, you can'y have a band named tool and have a singer who behaves normally. All singers are tools, but if you name your band tool then your singer needs to be the biggest tool out there short of Axl.

I dont consider TOOL metal at all. Prog Rock maybe.

I'll have to look for the video I saw.

TOOL was molded by MJK but I feel he is uneeded now. People are more into the music now than the message I think, especially since he started sounding kind of Christian on 10,000 Days. Maynard made APC and look where they are now. It's a percentage of fans that hang on every word of Maynard, but the majority, at least from those who I have talked to and hung out with, are more about the music itself now. If MJK was that amazing and the reason for TOOL's current successes instead of just their passed ones, Puscifer would be a bigger deal than it ended up being. If I do say so myself, Puscifer flopped. He wasted all that time and energy into raising that abomination that he could have spent in TOOL. MJK started off defiant, then tampered with spirituality, and now I think hes just a boring dad. I can't see him writing something that really strikes me impressed anymore.

They should have made an album as a 3 piece instrumental band. I'd pay to go see that. I won't pay to see TOOL as a 4 piece though, not until a new album comes out anyway. Same boring show over and over.

Tool aren't precisely metal, but they are metal but most non-musician and non-metalhead standards. If you mention them to joe-listener who mostly likes pedestrian rock, hiphop and pop top 40 they will say Tool play metal. I think that's accurate in a very broad sense and really genres are about being broad as every band or artist has their own take on a particular style (or should, shame on you bands who excessively imitate).

I wasn't really crediting tool's success to Maynard, even their early success. He contributed. But like many bands full of extremely proficient musicians they are a bit faceless without him. He adds a focal point for the casual listener and used to define the band's personality if not tis sound. I think if you take that focal point away from the casual fan Tool will sell a lot less records and tickets. Their real fans will likely be pleased, but the fan who owns a handful of singles on their iPod but will shell out for a ticket when they are on the road? I dunno. Those kinda fans make up a lot of album and ticket revenue. Look at acts like stone temple pilots. They tried to do it without scott 3 times now (twice under a different name) and they just do not fill the same number of seats, even with the linkin park kid doing a fairly convincing weiland impression. The question for the other 3 members of tool is a financial one. Its unfair, but the business works this way. Your singer can hold you hostage more or less if you are not careful. That's what made me throw in the towel on my own music career. Between management issues that got wrapped up in the court system, financial problems and the vocalists mercurial attitude I just couldn't see the point of going on when Iw as pushing 30 even if surmounting even 2 of those obstacles coulda seen us going national very quickly. It justw asn't worth the headache anymore knowing that no matter how much went right the singer might get squirrely and tank things on me...

As a subgenre pedant, I'd put them as prog rock, with metal elements, especially in the lyrical apects, and occasionally in the musical side of things; it can get quite intense.

As a subgenre pedant, I'd put them as prog rock, with metal elements, especially in the lyrical apects, and occasionally in the musical side of things; it can get quite intense.

my ex-wife's like you.... gotta fins a subgenre for every frickin' song... maddening...

I'm feeling more anxious about Gore.