a giant thread about... AMPS!

it has one other thing going for it..... TINY. A big and heavy solid state amp with a blah tone? no thanks. A solid state amp the size of a dynacomp with blah tone? hmmmmmmm.... you could just borrow a cab for shows and all you need is a pedal board, guitar cable and long speaker cable to go from the end of your board to Joe Duder's cabinet.... oh, and a guitar.

I forgot to mention that it was loud as fuck. More clean, neutral sounding amplification than you are ever likely to need really. I think it could easily keep up with a dual 6L6 equipped fender from the 60s assuming the fender were set bone clean and they both had the same speakers to drive.

put a EQ pedal in front of it? also could use something like a blackstar ht pedal that has a 12ax7 in it to warm it up abit? They are crazy loud though, 44watts too so plenty of power for most places. Thats not a bad idea really, borrow a cab, take this pedal and your guitar, cables and board and hey presto, you can gig with it. I think they do make a great little back up amp if your amp was to go to shit at a show though

I don't think I would bother with an EQ or a preamp that's meant to add an extra tube stage to a lower gain tube amp... there was nothing wrong with the voicing, the neutrality was just fine, she just lacks harmonic content and compression until cranked pretty loud (and then its only the amount of sweetness you get from a tube amp at around 3), I could see her working quite well amplifying a POD with the cab sim disabled or with one of those Wampler or Catalinbread plexi flavor pedals in front... seriously, even straight in, the little bugger sounds no worse than a heavy-ass fender stage series solid state amp (actually I thought she sounded better than most fender, vox and marshall solid state offerings), has only 1 control to worry about and weighs literally NOTHING

if I had to buy a cheap solid state amp I would go with this in a heartbeat over something that's pretending to be a more professional solution like the aforementioned fender, a crate or a peavey bandit or whatever most young people buy after the amp from their starter pack goes south

I suppose that is true, I just love the MESA Studio 22 preamp and the ENGL E 850/100 Power amp

y'know what, I gave you a big load of crap earlier, dude.... a friend just straightened me out, there are mesa studio 22 preamps that have the separate lead master knob, I just haven't ever played one of them.... my bad

Started off with a Fender Frontman, and so consequentially I spent half of my first year of playing guitar wrapping my jack lead round it to produce any sound.

Once I managed to convince my parents I was commited I went and bought myself a line 6 spider IV 15 thing (Same as Liam's). The worst bit is that I thought I was such a legend for it, and all the guitarists I knew were laughing their pro-tube arses off behind my back.

Finally I have got a decent tube combo; laney vc15, bought second hand from a bloke at my church. Hey it does the job, but unlike the line 6 it sounds quite nice.

Anybody have any experience of victory amps, apart from, from Rob Chapman

Don't get me wrong the line 6 is a great amp for starting out but high end solid state like the Blackstar tvp amps are so much better and have very good tube emulation but I'd rather a tube amp and can't wait to get a lowish wattage head and 212 cab or just a 212 combo in February :D

I was not laughing at you, Duke. You got what you could afford and went for versatility when you bought your line6.

Believe it or not, I went with a vintage fender tube amp after getting my 1st strat because my uncle sold it to me on the cheap because back then NO ONE WANTED A PRINCETON REVERB! I pretty much only went with it because I wanted the trem and verb, I was really unenthused that there was no master volume or gain circuit like the marshalls I was seeing in stores!

Back then the big solid-state versus tube debate was raging in the guitar magazines and solid state was clearly the favorite of all but hard rockers back then.... and pretty much everyone else in the states had a marshall 800 or 900, a soldano (if they were rich) or a fancy rack setup. The vintage guitar market was emerging, but the vintage amp market was still a joke. Only actual 60s plexi front marshalls and some Vox amps were selling for more than they retailed for brand new 3 decades prior.... and then not consistently. But ocne I cranked up that 15 watt old fender into overdrive I realized I knew what MY sound was all about and it was OLD SCHOOL, so it got me way ahead of the curve on the mid-90s vintage tube amp revival. If I had been born a few years sooner I would probably own some nice vintage guitars too, but I am just a little too young to have beat the late 80s rediscovery of great old guitars.

I didn't take offence man, it's fine.

no, I wasn't worried you took offence at one of my remarks, I said I wasn't laughing at you because you had said that "all the pro-tube guys were laughing at you behind your back"

well, I wouldn't laugh at you (and I prefer to laugh in people's faces, not snicker while their backs are turned) and the reason why is because when I got my 1st amp people mocked my vintage Princeton reverb relentlessly.... its so small, old fenders have no gain, its got no mid control, blah blah blah.....

we all fall into our early gear through circumstance and opportunity and I fell in love with non-master tube amps with simple tonestacks and a stripped down feature set, hell by my standards today the Princeton reverb has too much going on with the reverb and trem! but that amp was hopelessly uncool in 1993 and that stuck with me so much that I started buying Marshall 800s and 900s when I got some petty cash in highschool only to come backa round to marshall's simpler offerings like the superleads and 18 waters and then go even more bare bones when I got my beloved 1962 vox (I won't say the model, I don't want to owe you a pound!)

by the way, what's a guinea? a quid? English currency is puzzling....

Never heard of a guinea, other than I know its a country. a quid is a pound, fiver is £5, tenner £10, theres a ton of other term too but in Britain we just use a ton of terms for the same thing in Britain, chocolate biscuit? some people call it a chocky bicky

I wanna know whats up with americans calling a teacake a biscuit and having this white sauce shit on it though, that looks seriously mank! haha

maybe you guys don't have the Guinea anymore, but its in Charles Dickens and most other Victorian English lit.... even modern period pieces

yeah, your country is like Japan in that sense, a very old island nation state obsessed with cute nicknames for everything

Just googled it, in 1816 it was replaced with the pound, thats why I've not heard of it, too young! my family members still have a few shillings, £1 notes, sixpences etc, held all those, might be worth some money one day.

Haha, slang terms for everything here and lots of different dialect depending on where you live, even changes from region to region in England along. My family are from Manchester and up there they say things like On't for on the and Nowt for nothing, Barmcake which is like a bap or as you would most likely call it a burger bun/bread roll. Theres a lot more things too that they say up there, where I live in Hampshire theres not too much slang used really. In london they have cockney rhyming slang, they'll say things like Bees and Honey instead of money etc

We used to have really crap ,measurements for everything. The imperial system is an illogical joke, money was ridiculously, and unnecessarily complicated, and we had a hundred different variations on the mile.

You Americans can't speak!

It's a tap not a fawcet, and it's a cucumber not a zucchini. What actually is white sauce, I've heard of it, but never knew what it tasted like.

I don't get this... a cucumber is a cucumber, a zucchini is a different vegetable entirely...you cook a zucchini, its awful raw, cucumber is good raw but usually weird if cooked. They look a bit similar on the outside (at least some of the fatter species of cucmber, the skinny ones are their own thing), but they are totally different. We call it a tap here as well as fawcet, its a matter of preference but where I am from its usually called the tap... and water from the 'fawcet' is always called 'tap water'. I don't know where you got this stuff.

one thing I've noticed about British TV is that when your shows have American characters the Americanism of the dialect tends to be WAY overdone, not to mention the way British small-screenwriters will mutt together a ton of American regional slang for one American's dialogue putting terms together that would never be used by the same person except in jest. American characters in British film do not suffer from these authorial malaproprisms though. Odd.

Most Americans are NOTHING like people from other countries think. That is apart from the average American's crypto-imperialist sense of entitlement. That's real.

man, I just thought about it and you English guys REALLY hijackd my amp thread

Sorry about that, English people, just chat about anything and everything. I'm not actually joking a lot of people in england and the rest of the UK are extremely chatty but come to think of it a lot of Americans are too but to be fair most Americans today descend from Great Britain and Ireland

Ain't a Zucchini a Aubergine? Yea, the tv in Britain tends to make Americans look like idiots to be honest which isn't really the case. I tend to just watch american gear videos on youtube and you lot really aint massively different to us though fuck you burger king is cheap as hell compared to here! The American idea of English people is just weird, still think we talk like we did back in the 1920's judging on the accent haha. No one talks like that anywhere in Britain apart from in extremely rich areas