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Guitar Recommendations?

Got my heart set on a Jazzmaster, no doubt. But I had a few ideas going around while college holds me back.

that's an about face from a Gibson? The JM is the fenderiest of all fenders, lol. Great guitars though. Try putting 70s wide range buckers in it like Lee Ranaldo of Sonic Youth... or get all Fano JM6 and put a good set of actual P90 soap bars in.... just make sure you get a real nitrocelluloid tort chell pickguard or a gold anodized one... anything less is just wrong on a JM

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Is it really? I think there was something about the neck too, but I couldn't remember for the life of me. All I remember is that those strats and teles feel okay, bu the Jazzmaster just seemed to just sit right with me. I even tried the older ones on the vintage room at Guitar Centre and they felt just as good.

Then again, Gibson and the tens of other third-parties likes Hagstrom and D'Angelico are still on mind. Depends on how much money I can get in the next few months. I want to really open my options soon enough.

Is it really? I think there was something about the neck too, but I couldn't remember for the life of me. All I remember is that those strats and teles feel okay, bu the Jazzmaster just seemed to just sit right with me. I even tried the older ones on the vintage room at Guitar Centre and they felt just as good.

the stock pickups are the thinnest, twangiest pickups fender ever produced with their ultr-large and shallow underwound bobbin and alnico 5 rod magnets with the ehavy staggering, is just such a surfy, fender sound! and the weird tone circuitry is a real fenderism too as is the vibrato system, so yeah, the jazzmaster is really fender stock

I like jazzmasters, they are cool in that they totally fail to be jazzy and also aren't very rockin' in the 50s/60s/70s classic sense of that term. Once you start messing with the formula its not really a jazzmaster anymore, its just a cool offset body guitar. Idig that too. Most old Jazzies I have played have nice fat necks too...

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

I'd just like to revive this thread to say I now have this.

Borrowed from a friend, It's supposed to react better to pedals then the Roland G-303.

I'd just like to revive this thread to say I now have this.

Borrowed from a friend, It's supposed to react better to pedals then the Roland G-303.

looks fun... maybe you can just buy it off your friend

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

I'm considering it, retail is $170, so maybe I can get it off him with $120?

I'm considering it, retail is $170, so maybe I can get it off him with $120?

that sounds fair for a middle of the road used squier

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

I know this is three months old now, but I just want to say that I settled on this:

https://bonanzleimages.s3.amazonaws.com/afu/images/2437/1861/03/__57.jpg

"Hagström Tremar Super Swede"

Has pretty much everything I need under a $1000 price tag. Yes, I have the money NOW, I can order it now, but I felt it better to post here and just so you guys know.

Post some pictures when it comes in. Looks great. Curious to learn how it sounds.

Congrats, man!

GEAR:
  • EarthQuaker Devices Westwood
  • Fender '57 Custom Champ
  • Fender American Original '50s Telecaster

One of my friends swears by his 70s Hagstrom swede.Decent guitar especialy for a guy who mostly goes strummy strummy on campfire chords or tries to do his Robert Smith impression with a slew of flange, echo and delay (I mean Jason, not you Narcy). Full report once you've gigged yours, okay?

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Will do. On a side note, I also have a Old Blood Black Fountain that I ordered last Friday. Thing is, they haven't shipped it... Maybe that's what I get for purchasing straight from the creators rather than an official retailer? I should contact them by Friday...

Anyways, I'm pretty excited!! Can't wait. Hopefully, I'll be able to post a report and some picture soon :D

Is that your for your Satanist yard? Maybe to go outside your goat's blood red gazebo?

Oh, its an effect?

Darn, an old blood colored fountain sounds brutal....

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Haha, well the effect is quite dark for one. If you haven't looked them up yet, here's a video straight from the makers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI4UwG7mrE0

Love the vibe they have going, and I love this video especially. Anyways, long story short, it's an oil-can delay.

I used to have a pile of real moreley oil cans (1 fully working and 2 or 3 broken)... you could get them for like 10 bucks at yard sales because the oil is toxic. And because they suck. I got rid of mine a few years ago when the township declared a "hazmat" trash day. Are they valuable now?

Anywaty, I hope that carsinogenic gunk in the cans got disposed of safely. I don't want any baby birds getting cancer over such a questionable vintage effect.

this thing seems cooler than a real one, trust me

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

yea

I used to have a pile of real moreley oil cans (1 fully working and 2 or 3 broken)... you could get them for like 10 bucks at yard sales because the oil is toxic. And because they suck. I got rid of mine a few years ago when the township declared a "hazmat" trash day. Are they valuable now?

Anywaty, I hope that carsinogenic gunk in the cans got disposed of safely. I don't want any baby birds getting cancer over such a questionable vintage effect.

this thing seems cooler than a real one, trust me

This is news to me... that's kinda scary. Lol who puts actual oil in a pedal? Anyways, from what I see, there's the Morley oil can wah, and some boxey thing called the "Morley Electrostatic Delay Line EDL Oil Can Unit". Sounds fairly good, considering both effects are too big. A wah for an oil can delay? Weird.

yea

yea

To be honest I love the sound of oil can delays. The catalinbread adineko sounded pretty good when I've played it, and actual fender oil can delays are pretty nice. They do sound almost tape like, but with a bit less rigidity. They have a lovely warble, but they don't have that almost robotic feel of tape, which isn't always convient.

News to you? What did you think these pedals are simulating? Its a can of oil in a big, bulky pedal. Or a can of toxic goop at any rate. Its not petroleum in there. That's safer than whatever morley used.... and these effects were sold like hotcakes to kids in the 60s! Gotta love vintage American enterprise.

I had some EDLs around and my buddy had an oil can wah. Typical morley opto-wah with an EDL stapled to it. The way they work is that the can is like a giant, fucked up capacitor where the "oil" acts as the dialectric. It passes your signal's voltage through but very poorly so it kinda delays your signal, but it doesn't delay cleanly across the frequency spectrum. Also I want to say there's a motor in one of the models that spins the oil making the sound warbly as well as delaying it.

Yes both effects are huge by today's standards. ABout the size of an Echoplex EP2 or WEM Copicat solid-state model tape delay but not as large as a Roland Space Echo or Chorus Echo (literally the largest effects unit I ever owned! Huge and heavy but glorious when it was working,which was rarely... I spent more time servicing the motors and untangling the tape than actually getting my echo on... every tie I would gig it I would have to test her, service her, and baby her into the van and venue... that was it for tape delay then though, It was rackmount studio delays/multiFX like the SDD3000, SPX90 (had one of those until recently), and the shitty Alesis stuff OR the boss DD3 type stomps and its cousins from other brands, a vintage BBD pedal like a DMM or DM2... OR you could get a tape delay and take care of her like a newborn... when I got that Roland I really don't think the line 6 DL4 was out yet, you wanted classic echo you had to dig up some crusty old MIJ pedals that cost a lot then because they were all discontinued or you shelled out for a questionable tape delay, found a supplier for the funky old tapes 'cuz the one it came with was invariably broken or worn out, and you brought her back to life and tried not to sneeze on her lest she stop working mid-song).

Oil cans were the bastard step-children and have only gained popularity amongst vintage nerds because tape units have become prohibitively expensive now that there are people making new tape cartridges for pretty much all of the different brands. Before the internet gearsplosion of the 2000s the cost was kept down because of unavailability of tape and no one would even look at a oil unit. Its a sound all its own though for what its worth. Its funny the digital nerds are cloning it now because it was really unpopular until very recently.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

The Fender oil cans of the 70s sound a little more delay-like than the Morleys. I think Fender put a lot of care into how much gunk they filled the can with to get an even, rhythmic repeat. Its not spot on like a tape machine, BBD or DSP device, but its less reverb-like than the morley. I don't think that's a good thing though. Its still not rhythmic enough for most playing contexts where you want delay and a more washy, vibratoey-reverby echo is more of its own effect instead of being an epic fail to make what the British engineers at Abbey Road and Trident used to call "the repeat echo."

I still don't get why you would copy this sound though. It has a sort of Leslie speaker vibe going that's interesting I guess, but oil cans are REALLY the bastard stepchildren of vintage effects. For intentionally warbly echos with verbiness the Roland Chorus Echo will never be beat as its got a very unstable tape travel with lots of wow and flutter, scads of playback heads, the lush BBD chorus of the CE1 and real spring reverb in one box. And a gigantic, heavy box it is, let me tell you, Son!

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Quick update: Both the guitar and the pedal shipped earlier today, but I've no idea when it arrives. I've already rearranged my pedalboard to accomodate the new pedal :D

Now... To save up for an amp.