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Also I only just noticed the pony, I thought it was a hand. What's that about?

I was about to tell you there's another Traynor YVM1 on reverb like the one I just bought to scratch my hiwatt itch, but it sold.... too abd, you would like that amp with all your pedals. It positively inhales every box I put in front of it and its got the old school Hi Z effects loop going too, so you can put delay and reverb pedals in the loop post-master to get different tones if you are an ambience junky (and you are). Fuck these get gobbled up fast and they are pretty rare.

Seriously look at a Traynor from the late 60s or early 70s though. The YGM amps are BF fender with a UK twist, the YBMs are mostly marshally and/or tweedy and the YVMs are either Hiwatty or (ugh) solid state. Mine sounds fantastic and is built to survive a full-scale nuclear strike. The vintage Hammond transformer set in mine looks like a set of weak 100 watt amp transformers shoe-horned into a 50 watt circuit. Robust and definitely contribute to the punchy tone.Theya re still all $600 or less but the prices have beens teadily going up since I was a young man, so now is the time to get in before Traynor goes the way of Sunn, Sound City, Carlsboro, Vampower and other high wattage, sleeper brands from the glorious 70s and becomes unattainably expensive. As a pedal guy you are really looking at 2 power tube amps from the late 60s and early 70s to deliver your pedalboard tones with authority but without funky coloration.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Couldn't possibly find the model you're referring too, but thank God Reverb.com has a thing for search results on decades. Stuff like this reminds me of how there's the usual brands, and then there are those wierd ones like Tiesco that make funky looking stuff.

Lots of bass amps from Traynor, nothing that you mentioned. Checked eBay, found this. Pretty close, but dammit this amp search would be so much easier if I could actually mic it up. Hell, the new amp that our rhythm guitarist bought, some head and speaker by Kustom; speaker is in storage, and we connect the headphone out into the system. I find it strange, but unless there's a line out or headphone jack, i'd probably just get myself a 44 Magnum pedal.

Actually... that's not such a bad idea.

Also I only just noticed the pony, I thought it was a hand. What's that about?

I've been on this site for more than a year. Congratulations, you're the first one to recognise it.

Ugh, suffice it to say that I was a pretty lonely kid, you know, spent more time in the library while others spent their time socialising and shit like that. Call it a phase, whatever it is. Also, suffice it so say I'm not a fat, 40 year old virgin, I'm a perfectly functional member of society holding a job and getting a college education in law. So, ugh... Well, I just thought the picture was cool. Haven't bothered to change it,

The bass amps are only bass amps in the sense that a tweed bassman is a bass amp. As in they make better guitar amps. The bassmates and bassmasters sit firmly in the tweed/marshall camp for guitar. Tweed harvard, marshall 20 watt, jtm45 and 50 watt plexi circuits depending on year and model.

They actually sound better than the guitar models with spring reverb. The traynor bass amps have quite a following amongst rock guitarists but were made in such large numbers that demand has yet to outstrip supply.

I do not think you will easily locate the traynor i have and it may not be to your taste as it is very low gain.

If i jave my old models sttaigjt i wanna say the yga1 you linked is a great amp. Kinda like vox meets deluxe. But not exactly. Shes a solid box of rock. Built like a tank. The ygm3 is more in the deluxe reverb camp but with meaner voicing. Again british output tubes give it a vox/marshall slant. Theres a big twin reverb head too that sits between the tweed twin and blackface curcuits. I have tried all of these models before and while none are holy grails they are all better than most factory amps under 1000usd made since 1990 or so. I will take a traynor over a fender hotrod series combo any day of the week.

I picked my voicemaster up ona whim and i am floored by the tones this thing can unleash. And i ownand have owned a lot of more famous amps. This amp is special and no traynors i have played prior has let me down. I am just partial to early sound city and hiwatt heads and this circuit is dead similar. I imagine this little known traynor is a keeper for me like my 62 vox.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

So the retailer for the guitar I just bought refunded me. They JUST found out that they're out of stock for Swede... Whih means, I have two options left.

I've low-balled an eBay seller for a used version, $550 minus shipping. Either that, or brand new for $650 including the shipping.

Well... The pedal is still shipping, so there's that going.

Id say get a used stratocaster. Maybe a HSS

yeah, if you don't get the ebay swede for $550 then look at other models... you are talking about a healthy investment at $650 that can get you a worn in Gibson studio or maybe a Greco EG500 or700 from a good year if you trawl the bay and reverb.com hard enough. There are some great Burny LP custom copies on ebay and reverb right now. Try an ebay search for Burny LP custom. I am confident a 70s Greco or 80s Burny will school a current production Hagstrom. Even the stock Maxon and Gotoh PAF coies are VERY VERY good in these Japanese guitars.

OH! do you fancy a semi-hollow? The dealer I know from japan had offered me this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Greco-Semi-Acoustic-SA500-Guitar-RefNo-77074-/182010478152?hash=item2a60ab7e48:g:vHkAAOSwNgxWDfDG

but now its on the 'Bay for about $530 shipped. This model seems to trade at about $700 before shipping usually.

Its basically an ES339 but with a maple neck and a center block that stops before it reaches the end-pin. So its a little more hollow than a 335 and less hollow than a 330/casino. Its about the circumference of an ES339 or CS336 but it is a full-depth thinline whereas the Gibson versions are a little shallower than a full size es335.

This is a very good model if you like this style of guitar. Nitro lacquer, fret-edge binding, old growth woods, Maxon PAF copies.... if my Greco is any indication it should have 1st rate CTS 500k pots and black Sprague tone caps stock. Neck will be medium to fat I expect, nut width is on the wide side of 60s Gibson widths. The tuners are Gotoh sealed jobbies designed to look like vintage Klusons a little. They work great on my Greco. Bridge is a 60s wireless ABR1 style with plated brass saddles, but it may be metric and not English and it could be made of steel, brass or god knows what metal. It varied guitar to guitar in Japan back then not that Gibson was much more consistent (the only rule with 52 to 82 gibsons is there are no rules). I keep talking myself out of this guitar because I have so many guitars already. Not because I don't want it. Maybe you wanna give her a whirl? I assure you it will be a better instrument than anything new in your price range after a careful setup (its a long ride from japan).

Dude has no wiggle room on price though, its consignment. If you try to low ball him he may get snippy with you. His English is sketchy, but he is a reliable guy who is generally VERY polite. His shipping is pretty damned fast and his packing is superb. He sold me 3 guitars in the last couple years and I still play one of them EVERY DAY (nothing wrong with the other guitars, but you can't keep EVERY guitar you purchase). If you don't buy this I might be tempted to. The price is more than fair for a road-worn, stop-tail SA500. The stop tail version is unsual and it is also the more desireable version. Its also rare to see one with the pickguard attached since some shipped without and a lot of players removed pickguards from their ES and ES-clone guitars in the 70s and 80s to look 'cool' back when people didn't know that old plastic would become valuable one day.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

oh yeah, on old traynors, check this one:

https://reverb.com/item/1349647-traynor-yba-1-bass-master-mark-ii

50 watt, 4 input Marshall style, pre-modded by previous owner to be a spot on plexi clone if you like that sorta thing... its sad, I only paid $600 for my 1st superlead in 2001. Now you are lucky to get a traynor or a modern clone for that price. Not that the traynors aren't fantastically built amps and all, but its depressing to look at the rate of big-name gear inflation over the course of a mere 15 years.

Anyway, maybe that Hagstrom being out of stock is a sign from god that you shuld keep borrowing the tele you are borrowing and focus on a vintage tube amp instead... a Plexied Traynor Bassmaster? ahem!

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Sorry, yesterday was pretty full, so here's what's happened:

eBay seller said nothing. I'm going to buy the swede brand new somewhere else. I'm not disregarding recommendations, but I'm pretty set on a guitar that has everything I need. Also, I've been avoiding Gibson lately, mainly because of the fact that the rhythm guitarist in my band has both a Gibson Les Paul Studio an Epiphone ES-335. Both of them are like fuzz machines when you drive them even a little bit.

I think you should get the Greco, it'd be pretty cool to see you review a fine instrument as that.

On the subject of amplifiers... how I'd love to get a Traynor, but like I said, any of those amps are virtually useless to me if I can't plug it into a sound system. It really sucks, but I can't do anything about it.

In other news, the pedal is here! I've no idea how to use it, and now I just realised I haven't a long enough patch cables, plus the local music shop doesn't have any foot long cables... so I have to wait until next week or take a road trip Hollywood.

As for the guitar, there's one option left, and it's this. This is it. If they tell me they're out of stock, I will kill a man.

you can't plug ANY tube amps into a sound system and run speakeless without A) a specialized loading device like a Palmer, mesa, Two Notes or Radial tube-amp DI box with speaker simulation and a reactive load or B) risking blowing your amp up (and also sounding piss poor while doing it). Not from a line-out jack uness the ehad specifically says that the line put jack is for SILENT RECORDING where a massive power resistor is put in line whenever you plug into said jack. Otherwise its a line out from the preamp and the amp is running with no load and will striahgt up die if you keep up that sort of abuse to it.

There is no point in plugging a solid state amp into a solid state PA as far as I can tell though because it basically IS a solid state PA with a little shaping circuitry tht the mixing board could easily mimic with parametric EQ. The only thing giving a solid state amp any character at all is typically the pedals and the speaker. You just eliminated the speaker. I guess get a high end DI box for your pedal board or buy a used POD... or play somewhere other than church where they understand that the electric guitar is supposed to be LOUDER than the drummer and easily able to cut the mix in the biggest of bands, that's why they invented pickups in the first place. There's too loud, and there's having your balls taken off by a whiney, controlling, old sound guy who thinks that we musicians can't balance ourselves in a musically appropriate way. Many people can't, but many of us are real musicans and we understand to turn down and to use our firepower in service of the music, not as a full scale nuclear strike on our own bandmates.

I am not sure why anyone would plug an amp right into a PA anyway, it defeats the purpose of having a dedicated instrument amp. They make products for this sort of thing though, they are just expensive for the good stuff. A good tube amp is actually cheaper. If someone told me to plug my amp into the PA I would look at them like they're uncle is also their father and I also might take my ac30 and go home.

suit yourself with the swede, it seems like a lot of money for a modern, far east copy f a mediocre vintage LP copy.... if it were cheaper I would be like "what what? sign me up!" I can tell you just like it because its got some deangelico look to it and you are fixated on their new line of solidbodies.

The Greco is just an okay guitar. It has features that EVERY DECENT ELECTRIC in the Gibson camp oughta have, but none do any more.

on your friend's overfuzzy sound, has it occurred to you that the amp and the fact that hes slamming that lineout into an extremely high impedance input while leaving the power section operating without a laod, a virtually INFINITE impedance, and not a matched low impedance inductor like, say, a SPEAKER like it was designed to work with JUST MIGHT have something to do wtih the fuzzy response from his gear and maybe not so much the Gibson he has? that and Kustom has never made great amps, just awesome cabinets.

Okay, done. Just put that stuff about amps into PA systems in the back of your mind before you do anything weird with YOUR gear.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

I would recommend a Gretsch Electromatic. I just picked up a G5422TDC for 625 second hand and it sounds absolutely incredible/ looks stunning. The pickups on it give it a great sound and works well with any pickup selection and any kind of effects you could be using. Gretsch is always pretty solid, and I would say any Electromatic is going to be affordable and sound pretty good.

Other than that I am akin to Jaguars, an HH Jaguar would be the Beez Neez

625 seems like a lot of US dollars for a Korean, Indonesian or Chinese guitar, then again I think Gretsch's asking price for an MIJ professional series Duo Jet is outrageous (and I owned one). Its a good guitar but I know the markup is pretty extreme. People bitch about USA Gibsons, but I guarantee you their labor cost and and therefore profit margin is lower. Gretsch is a new ending cash cow to fender.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

New members, eh?

Well, I already bought a guitar and, if you didn't see the post, it's a Hagstrom Tremar Super Swede.

Quick update, guitar still hasn't shipped, and it was bought Saturday. I sincerely hope they don't screw this up...

As for the pedal... well, since this is my first time using both a delay in general as well as such a specialised oil-can delay, this has to be the most enjoyable yet confusing experience for my, for lack of a better name, "music career", or whatever you may. I'm trying out some combinations with tremolo and heavy reverb and such, but I still can't move very far until I get those IRG cables.

I can confirm that if you don't know what its supposed to do then its going to be confusing to get an ideal sound from an effect.... I found real oil can delay to be pretty baffling when I got a working one. I had to have an older guy confirm it was not broken because it just sounded so fucked up to me. I never managed to please my ears with it and after finding out it was full of toxic waste and then getting a Chorus Echo on long term loan from a friend who moved out of philly I just disposed of it with the broken ones. If they are valuable now I am kinda kicking myself.... but I just did not get the whole thing with the oil can echo. Major WTF effect.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Well luckily for myself, it's not as displeasing as the toxic waste pedals you describe. I'm just taking time to get used to the fact that this is not a straight delay pedal, it's just a bit warbly and dark and reverby. I love it. Just yesterday, I found out that running a delay > reverb > overdrive chain yields this warbly, uncontrolled sound, it's so much fun. You try playing a few lead lines and any sustains cause the overdrive to vibrato so wildly. In essence, I am enjoying myself :)

In other news, I've stopped buying for some time. Yeah, the guitar is coming, but I was on Reverb.com and... well, I found a Boss RC-3 for $100. Grabbed it the moment I saw. So both that and the guitar are STILL shipping. Also, local shop plus Guitar Centre have no Hosa patch cables, so I'll have to wait until Monday so I can go to the store near me and get those cables.

Which gets me thinking... the left side of my pedalboard is getting quite crowded. It was bad enough fitting trying to get a perfect order with such short cables, but I eventually got some sort of order going. Anyways, here's what it looks like right now:

http://i.imgur.com/ntqJWTs.jpg

So, I'd probably move everything over so the Boss RC-3 is in place of the Supernatural, the Supernatural is in place of the Trem-Verb, etc until we get to the Tuner. Take out tuner to accommodate space for the Trem-verb and delay. Next, volume pedal and from there, hopefully if I have the space, I'll be able to fit the tuner on the tuner out of the volume pedal. Also, you'll notice that the massive beast that is the Blackstar HT Dual is not connected. I need a one foot Hosa cable for that, and another short cable for the looper.

Side note: Guitar left Illinois yesterday in the afternoon. Pedal was in Texas yesterday at the same time as the guitar, and also left roughly at the same time.

What pedal is this. I thought you only ordered the black fountain?

Boss RC-3 Loop Station. I did order the Black Fountain, it's on the board, but an $80 drop was too amazing to pass. It's shipping now.

What you describe sounds just like the toxic waste delays yours is based on... I don't trust anything that obliterates the tone of my guitar like that. I'm a musical narcissist when I'm playing and as much as I like t indulge in sound design with synths and stuff I just like t hear myself play the guitar too much to bury my tone in warbly washy echo-verb.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Jesus, I went to reply and all of a sudden you edited, haha.

Well, this is basically your toxic wast pedals in digital form. And it's not all washy stuff, the vintage setting is loud enough to get some nice distorted sound, but like I said, I'm still sorting this thing out.

I sill haven't worked out how to get pics onto EB forums so I've just put a "gear porn" of my current board up there