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I remember when they were cheap also. What are you playing through now? Some guy has a Budda TwinMaster Plus head in Palm Springs. I wonder how it sounds. I also wonder if it's pre-Peavy or not.

I remember when they were cheap also. What are you playing through now? Some guy has a Budda TwinMaster Plus head in Palm Springs. I wonder how it sounds. I also wonder if it's pre-Peavy or not.

I have paired down the collection lately, but I still have 3 different ac30s including my beloved 62, a selmer that I'm planning on selling, my matchless that I need tos ervice... and the jim-watt which is a traynor PA head with my own circuit inside now. Oh and I have a spare one of those tryanor PA heads stock that's more of the orangey version of that circuit, but it needs fitler caps and stuff and probably a circuit tweak too.

Lately with my band I've been playing my ac30hw at 8ohms loaded with 2 celestions S magnets with pulsonic cones in aprallel to get a marshallier sound, but we're going for kind've a cream thing more and more so that's a good mate with a 335 or SG to summon those tones at a somewhat reasonable volume for practice and jamming ideas out (which is still loud as fuck)

oh, and I forgot, I have that reissue tweed pro in my closet.... but I dn't play it much unless I want to use a tele

Damn Jim, sounds like some good shit over there. I'm gonna take off but I'll talke to you guys later.

Mike \m/

Damn Jim, sounds like some good shit over there. I'm gonna take off but I'll talke to you guys later.

Mike \m/

I used to have more junk LOL, it was silly at one point... see, I got into amps and pedals when people thought old stuff was just old stuff and not vintage so I wound up buying all this stuff and its been self funding swapping it around ever since as the values of what I have increase all the time.

later

Later bro, we can talk anytime about gear.

Mike

Later bro, we can talk anytime about gear.

Mike

definitely

Well Jim I agree with you on the Oranges. I wish I had a "Vintage" Thunderverb 50. They use different tubes in the power section rather than those damn EL-34's. I'd like to say 5881 or 6550's or maybe KT's. I don't need or want a ThunderVerb 200. That's too much wattage for me. That's why I'm looking for a ThunderVerb 50. I cannot find a Sunn Model T under a grand. If you guys know something I don't, fill me in, okay? Thanks.

\m/ Mike

vintage? orange had like a handful of vintage models and noe of them were like the thunderverb? that's a enw model. The old ones all share basically the same matamp preamp with a few variations with different poweramps... some are very simialr but they have differing amounts of pwoer and clean ehadroom, feedback loop changes and some little thigns int eh pre that effected voicing and gain levels.... the new ones are mostly amrshall and vox based with the cathode follower preamp and DC coupled long tailed pair phase ivnerter arrangement whereas old orange was 2 cascading stages followed by a low loss baxandall2 band tonestack right into a classic cathodyne phase ivnerter with a driver stage and the signle triode invertor. also DC coupled but otherwise totally different

only the custom shop models seem to share this vitnage arrangement.

ifyou dont like EL34s the direct pinout replacement is the 6CA7 that's an american beam tetrode version (favored by van halen in his pelxi period) and the KT77 kinless beam tetrode which is a british tube built like and american tube on crack with no midrange dip at volume. Hence kinkless.

Yes vintage, like one of the ones 1st built whenever production 1st started. Whenever that was.I don't know what tubes are interchangeable. I wanted to get my Crate rebiased but nobody I contacted in SoCal wont do it. Maybe it's harder than I think. Guys on YouTube make it look simple, lol.

Mike

sorry, I just don't think of a 90s or 2000s amp as vitntage... it can be good, it can be getting older.... vintage is like 70s or earlier

I don't know what tubes are interchangeable. I wanted to get my Crate rebiased but nobody I contacted in SoCal wont do it. Maybe it's harder than I think. Guys on YouTube make it look simple, lol.

biasing is simple

you cna doit

inerchangeable tubes... el34=6ca7 kt77

6550=kt88

6L6GB=kt66 and 5881

6L6GC is its own hing but can eb itnerchanged with any 6L6 variant if the plate voltage is low enough

that's honstly about it for easily interchangeable power tube types in common guitar amp tubes

I watched a video one time saying the Original Orange ThunderVerb 50's came out with different power tubes that's how you could tell the old from the new. I know most of my stuff is not vintage but would love vintage gear over the stuff I currently have like a ROSS Compressor, etc. I agree, "vintage" is like 70's & older but some stuff is harder to find ya know? I thought the ThunderVerb 50 was from the original Orange.

I don't think of stuff from the 90's & 2000's as vintage also I was talking about other stuff. Like a Riviera built Fender, etc.

No changing of output transformers when doing this?

See I didn't didn't know what were variants of the others until recently.

Well my Crate is AB type amp, I'm not sure if any of the above information will affect the tube switching out.

Thanks, Jim.

no, you never need to change a working output transformer unless you want to.... you can go etween totally different tube types like el34 to 6L6 just by changing the pin outs on the sockets around to work and rebiasing... eengoing down to soemthing small like a 6V6 is no biggie you just have to respect the primary impedane so if the transformer runs at 16, 8 or 4 ohms with a big tube with a 6V6 it runs at 8, 4 and 2.... but even that you can get away with in a combo if you keep to the rule that low into high probably won't fry, but high into low is going to blow

Ahh I see. How do you know SO much about this stuff. Electronic engineer?

I went to art school but I work in heakthcae and can build amps because I'm not a moron. I can read a book, retain it and apply what I learned. Reading and experience.

I see

I see

I'm wearing a game of thrones t-shirt my son gave me for my birthday, it says "I drink and I know things." Its fairly accurate