Equipboard submissions EVOLVE!

sorry for the wall of text but it's not that long of a read, and it's important!

Hi all,

I recently came across an interesting submission that involved a few members, including one of our very own esteemed mods luxiu. There's an Equipboard lesson to be learned there, and I wanted to take a few moments to talk about it.

The submission was in this state:

http://i.imgur.com/jmclUTbl.png

User jjshelton came in, changed the quality rating to Needs Improvement (Item) and said:

"I don't believe this is an American Special."

luxiu then came in, changed the quality rating to Completely Incorrect and said:

"Is not an American Special, you can notice that it lacks the mic position switch over the pick-guard and also the truss-rod over the headstock."

I then chimed in and asked if Completely Incorrect was a fair rating here, since that's reserved "...for things you are saying need to be outright deleted and banished to outer space," to which luxiu replied, "We are providing wrong information by letting this stand around here."

So, objectively, luxiu is correct. We are providing wrong(ish) information. However, the point I want to make is that Completely Incorrect is NOT the correct quality rating here. Here's why:

Equipboard submissions EVOLVE!!!

At least that's what we had in mind when we designed the system. What do I mean by evolve? They are there to be improved upon and revised.

If you're looking at this photo of Paul Banks and submit that as a plain old Fender Stratocaster, that's not completely incorrect. It's a step in the right direction, and a starting point (if you submit that item as a ukulele, then, yes, THAT'S completely incorrect).

Someone might then go in and quality rate that as Needs Improvement (Item) and say, "Hey that's some kind of signature Strat, those pickups are not standard."

Someone else can then come in and make the submission as thoroughly researched and backed up with proof as it is today.

Equipboard shares similarities with other community-built websites. Wikipedia and Genius (the rap lyrics website) come to mind. I'm reminded of a video I watched from one of the Genius founders Tom, where he explains this evolving of a community submission. He uses the Wikipedia page of "Asphalt" as an example. Start watching from 3:31 (the main point is made by 4:36).

https://youtu.be/X45YY97FmL4?t=3m31s

Again, sorry this ended up so long but I think it's a core fundamental of Equipboard. Let me know if you guys have questions, concerns, or anything to add to this. 😄

It comes with the question: how would it EVOLVE? I mean, the mechanism(s). Shouldn't we be able then to replace the submitted item to the entry? To correspond with your own sketch we should be able to state a generic http://equipboard.com/items/fender-jazzmaster to fit better on the case of http://equipboard.com/pros/yannis-philippakis/fender-american-special-jazzmaster-electric-guitar instead than to the mismatched specific version of it which keeps it more wrongfully than what we could quickly point to. I think that we should also be able to report duplicated submissions for cases when the same or equivalent source turns to point to different items because of this cases of ambiguity/vagueness. :-)

Shouldn't we be able then to replace the submitted item to the entry?

You're totally right, yes you should. The fact that this process is still "locked down" is an oversight on our part. I will add that to the todo list right away, that mods should have the power to swap out items.

I think that we should also be able to report duplicated submissions for cases when the same or equivalent source turns to point to different items

Not sure I 100% follow, can you explain this a little further? Are you just saying that a duplicate submission should be able to be flagged? So like, say Yannis is spotted with two Jazzmasters, in two different submissions, but they happen to be the same guitar. One of those should be flagged as dupe, and marked for deletion. Did I understand right?

maybe you should start by allowing only moderators to change the item and then open it up from there

Yes, like that, dear G, sorry about my messy explanation. :-)

The fact that this process is still "locked down" is an oversight on our part. I will add that to the todo list right away, that mods should have the power to swap out items.

I was always under the impression that that was a site administrator function. Like, we need an understanding of how to edit a site's source code and such to move and edit information on a page. I must be mistaken, but wouldn't that be true about certain actions on your part?

We just need to unlock that feature (i.e. swapping out an item in a submission) so that mods can do it too.

http://www.sbs.com.au/comedy/sites/sbs.com.au.comedy/files/styles/body_image/public/102hook_kill_himself.jpg?itok=UD3-Ziiy&mtime=1471308237