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Why does my mix sound unprofessional?

I come from a family of uppity musos, the last thing anyone wants to do is share music with eachother on a holiday and when old uncle henry won't shut up about his blue eyed soul band and all the bar gigs and weddings they've been playing we all leave the room en mass and head for the scotch.

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  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

lol, that's was funny...xD, hey check this out https://soundcloud.com/nikhiljoshua/one-thing-remains I made it 2 years ago in fl studio [shh, i was using the p version]

https://youtu.be/gCYcHz2k5x0

I'm trying to get the synth at 1:00

I tried to make it using tyrell n6 but it doesn't sound like that one

how can I get it like that? http://vocaroo.com/i/s1XksOz10SvV

are you talking about the 'bell-like' synth that sounds like its an additive synth or maybe FM? It doesn't sound overtly filtered but I clearly hear some detuned oscillators....

using tyrell you might get close mixing 2 or all 3 oscillators (3rd being sub) with some detuning within the oscillator fine tune on 2 as well as detuning using the master detune feature along wthmultiplying the vices to add more detuney goodness by layering more detuned oscillators on single notes (tyrell is a poly so you can really go nuts adding voices to single note parts).... I would leave the filter wide open (cutoff up, resonance down) at least to start and and try adding more metallicness adjusting the FM on oscillator 2, from there you will want to play with the RM (ring modulator) amount and try different sources for the RM (there are 2 drop down lists for the RM, top right) -- I would also look at the modulation sections at the end and see about adjusting parameters with note velocity data to add interest, though the original sound doesn't have thtat feature as far as I can hear, it would be cooler if it did so it morphed subtley as the part played... I would statt with triangles on osc 1 & 2 and see how that sounds...

I don't think that sound was made this way but I'll bet you can approximate it. To be honest it has all the hallmarks of a factory preset to my ear, but there are certain ubiquitous synth plugins I refuse to pay for because they are just overused in music right now.... for what some of them cost you can buy some decent hardware that's way more fun to play with like a used SE1 rackmounted mini moog clone with MIDI , but I digress.

or do you mean the sustaining PWM 'rave lead' type sound around that time, because tyrell can do that no problem, its a pretty typical dance music trope using 2 or more oscillators, generally pretty detuned saws in a mono patch with gobs of detuned unison voices, subtle filtering and wide open envelopes so it sustains....If I recall the sound is loosely based on a preset from the alpha juno but really shot to prominence in the 90s when roland released the JP8000 and 8080 analog modelling synths offering 'supersaw' mode, and ultra thick detuned saw mode that is really THE way to get the detuned PWM dance lead.... but the general idea predates the supersaw waveform of the late 90s and you can do it with other synths if you aren't ging to be nitpicky and if you try these freebies:

http://blog.wavosaur.com/5-free-vst-emulations-of-roland-jp-8000-supersaw/

as the original jp8000 was a DSP synth simulating analog the vst copies sound pretty good, especially P8

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  • Roland Juno-6
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I think tyrell only has 2 oscillators because I can't see the 3rd one and 2nd one has only 2 shapes

tyrell has a sub as osc 3, fixed shape (sine probably)you can use to add texture, see my original post.... I think you are right that osc 2 is just continuously variable between square and saw? try square/pulse first for both then

reread my original post

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okay I will read and upload what i made.

I am still not clear which sound you mean

directly at 1:00 that riff is a supersaw rave lead type thing with LFO controlled vibrato at the end of the note (or maybe martin just turned it up on certain notes with the MOD wheel assigned to LFO control of pitch) but I think the bell like sound that's solo a few seconds later is playing under the rave lead doubling the notes in the exact same register giving it a little more forve and texture... then the annoying rave lead drops out and the bell-like sound is out front

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here's the history of that 'anthemic' millennial supersaw lead sound as recounted by a guy who endured its birth like I did.... a great article with a killer sense of humor

http://www.ghostfact.com/jp-8000-supersaw/

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http://www.keyboardmag.com/create-sounds/1256/return-of-the-super-saw/28933

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I forgot about this guy that sounds really jp8000ish and JUST does the supersaw and nothing else for no fuss generation of cheesy lead lines:

http://shop.cfa-sound.com/products/super-7-supersaw-vst/

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I meant the synth which was coming from 1:00 onwards

supersaw, see my above posts with freeware.... its a very specific sound that you can only get close to if you have lots of oscillators, easier just to go with something that has the roland supersaw waveform

but I think its doubling the part with something else in the song you referenced which is a good call since a solo supersaw lead is a cliché and though its making a comeback its most often used ironically

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shop.cfa-sound.com/products/super-7-supersaw-vst

my win is 64bit it's not working in my ableton

shrug, so's mine, but it works on my machine.... try P8 instead

https://www.kvraudio.com/product/superwave_p8_by_superwave

if that won't work, maybe you should take it as a suggestion from God to use a more original synth sound for your purpose..... supersaws aren't teaching you much about synthesis since most of their unique qualities are directly built into the singular oscillator shape unless you build them with TONS of detuned voice stacking on a capable synth....

speaking of which did you download synth1? You could fire up 2 detuned saws and a saw sub osc in there with a little white noise and some PWM to fatten things, then use the built in chorus and crank up the voices int eh UNISON section (bottom elft) and turn up the detune knob until its ounds right.... in both amp and filter envelopes turn the attack all the way down and sustain all the way up with just enough release to avoid a click when you let go of the note because all those unison voices will turn that klick into a THUD.... but that might do ya for a supersaw

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it's not detecting this one also

try synth 1 and build it up with saws for all 3 oscilaltors (including the sub set for its highest octave) and at least 4 voices of unison detune plus some chorus... you could also add pulse width modulation to one or both of the oscillators via the LFO section

http://synth1.com/

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
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okay, will have my dinner and try it.

back, I'm trying it in synth1

in about 5 minutes I made a pretty close approximation in tyrell and did a screen capture

http://imgur.com/a/dgUu6

I hope the image can be blown up big enough for you to read my settings and get an idea what's going on.... you can probably get a more digital, bright version going with similar settings in synth1, tyrell does a pretty darn good job being warm and analog for a piece of software

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
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