Why does my mix sound unprofessional?

but still, you have that knowledge and caliber to do that. And probably have a lot lot lot...lot more knowledge and experience than me 😑 and I know that. I wouldn't ask any question like that, btw.

Anyways I will be starting my synth analysis from tomorrow in ableton. I will make all the different type of sounds by research online and your help. I will store each and every good sound I make in a folder so that I can loop up if I forget something in future. After that I will totally do a song with all the synths. I guess it would be very pleasant to listen to that. But the problem is my mic[lappy's mic]😂 but I should adjust with what I have 😁

so, it's pretty late now...I have to hit the sack...so cya later mate 😄 and sorry once again my friend. :)

And probably have a lot lot lot...lot more knowledge and experience than me 😑 and I know that.

but tis ahrd to impart via the web, its a lot faster to show people some concepts by doing.... another reason I was not sure I could help you anymore is that your needs are diverse and in-depth and really getting beyond the scope of a forum post, especially as you are trying to tackle a number of music-related disciplines simultaneously -- and some of this stuff is just harnessing your creativity and there's more than 1 way to do that.... it just rarely involves being in a hurry

yea presently I'm not in a hurry because I've come to know that I should learn a lot more to make good music. So I will learn the concepts slowly and steadily and later apply them in the production.

btw, if you know any good documentaries or post about synths sounds please post the link. I will anyhow be searching for it. I will maintain a note book for synths now on and write down important things I learn. In that way I can look up in the future. And probably memorize it

there's a lot of 'screwdriver' work at every stage that you need to learn about and find your own distinct style of accomplishing... from developed writing to polished mixing

documentary on synths? "Moog" about Bob Moog.... "the shape of things that beep" was okay and relatively informative

nuts and bolts music creation is not featured in a lot of films.... this is book turf

thank you 😄

I saw the "Moog" documentary, and it was pretty inspiring to me...I'm not only a computer enthusiast but also an electronics enthusiast too...I like to make circuits and build them. That's was really very useful to me.

here's a telugu song I found that was full of synths, and I love it. Hopefully one day I would make music like that.

https://youtu.be/Zxe32LiCcfU

how's this book http://theartsatrush.wikispaces.com/file/detail/Music+Theory+for+Computer+Musicians.pdf/521009436 let me know if it's worth to read

the introduction seems to come from the right direction and the chapter titles appear to address topics you will want to be thinking about

but I don't have anything like the amount of free time to read it and form an opinion

so just go for it nd give her a read, just remember there are NO RULES, just TOOLS -- don't bury your intuition, just hone it... this is a creative medium 1st and formost and your goal in gathering knowledge and experience is to better express yourself. I have a fairly analytical approach to making music, but it all starts with an idea, humming in the shower and that stage isn't analytical at all. I get inspired and feel compelled to make the time to develop an idea. I NEVER sit down and say 'today I plan to write a song'.... I've been there when I had a professional career (of sorts) and I got more garbage than gold. Attempting to meet business deadlines from record labels, publishrs and TV producers only worked out well for me when the ideas were already kickin'. Starting from scratch on a deadline produced some really uninspired stuff at best.

Like I said, some days I wake up with a song in my heart and I hum in the shower and hum to myself throughout my day. Some people make time to connect with instruments for inspiration, they fiddle around on the guitar until their subconscious produces a winning phrase and others screw with synths and samples until an interesting sound or group of sounds becomes an idea for a song... but the mechanics come after the big idea.

I am tied up with another stack of work today so I can't listen to the song you posted until lunch. Are you trying to ask me to give you an idea what sorts f isntruments were selected to play the parts and maybe to dissect the arrangement elements with you to help you understand how they work and why they appeal to you aesthetically?

Are you trying to ask me to give you an idea what sorts f isntruments were selected to play the parts and maybe to dissect the arrangement elements with you to help you understand how they work and why they appeal to you aesthetically?

yea I know that it's simple progression of chords but it sounds good. I like this type of music too. What type of synths or instruments they used and why did the same repetitive pattern sound appealing.

okay, no problem.... like I said, I am doing funding work right now that is equally time sensitive and detail oriented so multi-tasking is not a good idea (though with much of what I do outside of music I am making my living on auto-pilot while letting the creative side of my brain run wild, an eye on my laptop and another on the music machine, there are a handful of non-episodic tasks like this that require my full and continuous attention to complete effectively. The hum-drum work actually seems to go better for me when I do a little of this nd then a little of that... submit a bill, program a bassline, start a check release schedule, pick the kid up, etc) -- I will have to get back to you when I take a break, maybe in 2 hours and my apologies if you are no longer awake (I estimate it will be the wee small hours of the morning by then in India)

hey no problemo, in the mean while I'll be learning some synth programming and effects etc...let this be the least priority in the list. Let the flow be slow and steady, I'm not in a hurry 😄

and do other things... I always get a kick out of guys like Tim Simenon who also own and cook in resturants, probably because I went to cooking school and like to cook while blasting unfinished music

http://www.radio.cz/en/section/one-on-one/swapping-beats-for-meatballs-how-tim-bomb-the-bass-simenon-came-to-run-a-prague-eatery

he makes a good point in this article I have bookmarked about creating a recipe being a lot like recording your own music

immediately I hear a subtractive patch reminiscent of Roland's mid-80s digitally controlled analog synths with PWM and a non-resonant hi-pass filter after the resonant low pass section like the later Juno synths (alpha juno, juno106, mks50) and JD800.... these are pretty straightforward 'factory preset' type sounds across the board and should be easy to reproduce... I suspect the abss was created with a popular software instrument called Massive, but I am not listening loudly so I could be wrong.... hmmmmm

the vocal is very distracting to me, maybe if you can ask me specific questions with some time references to when specific sounds or musical ideas are introduced in the recording now that I gave it a general listen I can be of more assistance to you?

I am around now having knocked off work for the next 2 hours to eat/decompress....

okay I just finished dinner....

start 2:27 2:56

I liked them, I don't know how they achieved a fuller sound with using so less number of instruments.

okay, first and foremost like most Asian pop music this track is compressed and limited beyond belief to sap all the dynamics out.... it been compressed during the tracking process, then individual mix elements got further compression and then groups of mix elements were compressed as bussesand there is additionally mix buss compression going on across the whole track and that's before some coke head mastering engineer crushed the rest of the dynamic across the stereo master with a maximizer and probably some multiband compression to boot... this is making the mix sound loud and full regardless of how little is actually playing.... its aprt of what we call 'the loudness wars' --- not my favorite sound, but the secret is not to smash everything in one go round.... layers of compression and limiting is a lot more 'transparent' in that they don't create pumping and breathing artifacts like really smashing just the mix buss for example with a compressor and brick wall limiting maximizer type of plugin set with a very low threshold and max compression ratio

so that's a big part of the overall sound and its a trend in music that's wrapping up right now (just like big hair and digital reverb in the 80s).... the other thing making it sound big as that when there are less instruments the background vocals (of which there are PILES OF DOUBLED AND HARMONY TRACKS in what I assume is the chorus section all auto-tuned just to the edge of full-on robot mode) get turned up in the mix a bit (although all the buss compression can just create the illusion of a fader automation as the compressor works less hard when isntruments drop out, but I suspect both)...

this song is VERY vocal heavy and tight vocal performances edited heavily and brought in and out constructively are the backbone of the track, otherwise the synth element is just roland 808/909 type percussion, a juno or oberheim-ish synth playing chords, a digital synth (maybe a dx7) doing a bell like lick sometimes, a drone synth bass probably with detuned saw oscilaltors of some sort and some filter swept white or pink noise used to transition between sections and fill space

okay, so there's less dynamics range in the song and synths and heavily autotuned vocals...

can I make a song like this in my limited ablton live lite version??[just using 8 tracks, midi and audio combined]

there's at least 8 tracks of vocals, so not exactly.... you are going to have to breakdown and buy software or pirate it (shh, I never used the P word)

the first step is to write a song like this.... make a 2 track demo of just the main synth line and vocal to start, then sit back and do other thigns for a few weeks, come back and revise the melody,s tructure, lyrics before doing anything else

one you are commited to the song after due consideration you will want to move along with thigns and you might want to pay for software.... pretty much any piece of software with VST plugin support will do (I say VST because its the plugin format with the largest pool of quality freeware synths and processors to achieve this sort of thing)

and you will need to rent or purchase at least 1 decent vocal microphone and a good quality preamp and maybe a hardware compressor for some gentle peak limiting into your soundcard to record the vocal performance if you want THAT ssort of sound.... that is either a large diaphragm condenser or a high end broadcast dynamic microphone

ohh I see that. I don't think I can buy a new DAW. I will make this type of songs later i guess after learning the synths and getting experience, i think for now a piano and vocals are enough for me 😂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9pXeziqdLc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_rWMQp2Hho

this one's good

my favorite is ambient music...I mostly like to do simple songs but effective and sound fuller and good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWInNGhwidQ

atleast I want to achieve a quality like this with ableton lite

liited resources? work on your songwriting.... a good song stands up with Spartan instrumentation and production... the song you referenced is nothing to write home about musically speaking as you pointed out.... its reliant on production values designed to appeal to a specific audience but if you change those elements and pitch it to a different audience I suspect it will fail to shine

I forgot about my song that I was making, the one which you said to work on my beats and progression...I want to focus on that because it's Christmas time now...I have to make atleast 1 song for the family to listen to.