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Small practice amp on a budget

I am looking at getting a new amp. (My first amp as I'm just borrowing at the moment)

Unfortunately my girlfriends Dad is a collector and I've used his amps a lot so my taste has become quite expensive (2 2x12 Marshall Cabs and a rack amp with a Les Paul is just stunning). However I am just a student so can't quite afford anything like that.

I love playing rock music, some of it quite heavy, but mostly indie rock and prog rock.

I don't really need effects at all as I only really use my distortion, chorus and compressor pedals.

I have a budget of around £100 absolute maximum, preferably around the £80-£90 mark though.

Been looking at the Fender Champion 20 as I only need 20W at absolute most, but 10W would be enough.

What would you guys recommend?

Hey! We recently put out a guide for this very thing, how to choose a practice amp on a budget.

It sounds like you got spoiled right off the bat w the Marshall and Les Paul - don't ever let go of your girlfriend's dad, he sounds amazing ;)

Since it looks like you have some good pedals, maybe you should look at the Vox AC4TV, or Orange CR3 Micro Crush? My practice amp is an Orange CR30R. It doesn't have any on-board effects, just an OK reverb, and it takes pedals well. I like the sound of it personally, for a practice amp at least.

Hope this helps!

GEAR:
  • Fender Telecaster Custom Electric Guitar
  • Big Ear Pedals Woodcutter
  • HeadRush FRFR Go Portable Desktop Amplifier

Hi, thanks for your reply. Oh he has a fender twin amp (original release) as well. A tom Anderson, 2 American made strats, es335 es375 (with bigsby tremolo) a telecaster and an SG. A few Martin acoustics too and a firebird on the way!

Anyways! I have been talking with him and we reckon that possibly forking out that bit extra for the orange micro terror setup would be good as it is a valve amp?

Also tempted by the fender mustang for its modelling capabilities.

The Micro Terror looks great but will you need a speaker cab with it?

I'm almost sold on a Fender Mustang as well, the demo videos make it look so appealing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUSseC_d6WM

GEAR:
  • Fender Telecaster Custom Electric Guitar
  • Big Ear Pedals Woodcutter
  • HeadRush FRFR Go Portable Desktop Amplifier

that's not a lot of cash, especially if you have been playing nice tube amps up until now... can you solder and read a wiring diagram?

either that or scour the internet for a used ac4tv, they sound pretty good and are cheap as all heck

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

I'm an engineering student so soldering and the likes are nothing new to me. The micro terror with a cab would only come to £150ish.

There are definitely downsides to starting to play guitar at the same time as I started going out with this girl. The first decent guitar I played was a '69 Les Paul custom through the Marshall's.

At the moment it really is between the orange valve amp and a mustang. Is it worth £60 extra for the valves? Would I better holding off on valves until I can afford something bigger and a bigger cab like a Marshall setup?

Agh that's a tough question to answer! The Orange Micro Terror gets some amazing reviews. It seems that's the practice amp to get for the tone snobs out there :) Then again, the Mustang seems more versatile, with the on-board effects (which you might not need) and the modeling. I think it kind of comes down to what you value more - a more pure sound and plenty of headroom from the Orange? Or a slightly more tech-y and versatile amp that can more or less model a bunch of different tones?

I love the band Foals and it's so cool that Jimmy Smith uses the Fender Mustang as a practice amp in the dressing room :)

GEAR:
  • Fender Telecaster Custom Electric Guitar
  • Big Ear Pedals Woodcutter
  • HeadRush FRFR Go Portable Desktop Amplifier

I love that you mention foals. "What went down" is one of the pieces I always go back to playing and I always use it as a warmup piece

I'm an engineering student so soldering and the likes are nothing new to me.

great, build a champ kit! you won't be let down

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Agh that's a tough question to answer! The Orange Micro Terror gets some amazing reviews. It seems that's the practice amp to get for the tone snobs out there :) Then again, the Mustang seems more versatile, with the on-board effects (which you might not need) and the modeling.

neither sound spectacular, but neither sound bad, I would probably go micro terror... I was not knocked out with the one I tried, but it sounds pretty decent for the money.... the mustang does a lot, but at that price point I'll bet none of the myriad of sounds it does are particularly great... the micro terror is a traditional hybrid amp with all the benefits and drawbacks of that topology, I can get next to that being from generation valvestate!

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

Have you checked out anything in the Orange Crush Series? I have played with the 35t and its great. I played the 20 a little bit and from what I played it was really good but I didn't play it as much. (I was at a music store.)

Dumb question. If you are just wanting to practice, why not an audio interface and some headphones? That way you have DLC which can get you some amp emulators to mess with to get whatever sound you can dial in.

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  • Fender MIJ Jazzmaster JM62
  • Epiphone Dot
  • Electro-Harmonix Sovtek "Green Russian" Big Muff Pi V7C

I'm just a fan of the feel I get from playing through headphones nor through an audio interface. It always sounds artificial to me.

Headphones are useful on an amp yes, but I don't want to forgo the ability to crank up the volume a bit and play out loud.

I'm just a fan of the feel I get from playing through headphones nor through an audio interface. It always sounds artificial to me.

Headphones are useful on an amp yes, but I don't want to forgo the ability to crank up the volume a bit and play out loud.

I hate playing through headphones too... in the studio I like to track live with the drummer when possible with my amp behind some gobos in the room or at least be playing along in the control room through the monitors with my amp blazing away in an ISO booth. Ideally I like to use a tweed deluxe, ac15, champ or ac4 in the room and split my signal to a larger amp in an ISO booth like a plexi or ac30. If you mike both amps up you have a lot of mixing options. Anyway, back to your question, I again suggest you build a champ kit as a 'lunchbox' head. It won't cost much, will provide wonderful tweed tone at neighbor friendly levels, loves effects pedals due to its no tonestack topology and can be mated with cabs of various sizes to produce different tones and create different degrees of projection. Do a 1x10 with a low efficiency Jensen-style speaker in the bedroom to practice and drive a 2x12 loaded with 100+dB efficiency celestions with the band when you need great vintage overdrive. Or look up the moonlight amp on google, its a great 1 watt all tube amp that can be built from a handful of parts using 2 dual triodes (anything you like will work in the preamp and you need a 12at7 to act as the pushpull poweramp, the 12at7 will self-phase-split in this circuit, its killer) or do a hi mu preamp pentode like a 58879 or ef86 in the preamp to get voxy... or you can do it all with octals too, I think a 6SJ7 and 6SL7 work in this circuit, I forget....

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

also, you may have noticed the Chinese made ac4tv on the equipboard practice amp roundup? these amps sound great and can be had for about $150 US on the used market so at the current exchange rate think about getting a used one for about £100 UK including shipping if you go the internet route. The ac4 custom classic they are pushing these days has the top-boost tonestack, ut doesn't sound half as good and the added circuitry makes it less reliable. If you want the features save your beans and get the handwired ac4 (its like the CC version with a better circuit, more useful features, bigger speaker, better parts and better build quality) , it is spectacular and can handle practice, jams and even smaller gigs. I have never been a single-ended amp guy, but my ac4 and my buddy's vintage champs and GA5s are becoming my go-to's when practicing or spending time noodling with friends. Many 5 watt, SE amps sound like boxy trash, but some are really great.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp

If this thread is still somewhat active and OP is still considering, I'd go with the Mustang. The Micro Terror may have better tone, but I think it would be better if you start to familiarise yourself with more and more effects WITHOUT buying pedals. You might find a few effects you like and take note for future purchases!

Micro Terror... for your tastes, it would very well. Tone simply outweighs lacks of effects too, but this is more your opinion. Do you want better tone, or more effects?

Also, if you go with the Micro Terror, try the used ones on eBay or Craigslist. They're much cheaper, and if they do break down, it'll give you an opportunity to learn how a tube amp works and how to fix it rather than just sending it to the luthier. In fact, talk to him for help if it does break down!

I love the band Foals and it's so cool that Jimmy Smith uses the Fender Mustang as a practice amp in the dressing room :)

Damn, haven't heard of'em and they sound really good.

EDIT: Oh, guys, try Masakachi! It was on Foals' Instathing and they sound fantastic!

I just tried both the micro-terror and mustang with my guitar (took it to the shop with me) to get an accurate comparison.

I loved the micro-terror, pumping up the volume and gain and the volume on the guitar and it just distorts beautifully. The mustang on the other hand sounds fake.

The mustang sounded like one of those gimicky iPhone apps that changes your voice to sound like a robot.

I am going with the micro-terror.

The mustang sounded like one of those gimicky iPhone apps that changes your voice to sound like a robot.

I am going with the micro-terror.

I had a feeling.

GEAR:
  • Roland Juno-6
  • Gibson SG Standard
  • Vox AC30 Guitar Combo Amp