Super sonic and deluxe reverb

jesus christ, no wonder punks used them so much, they could a take a beating and keep on rolling

yeah, the single channel 800 is one of the sturdiest amps of its day... none of the pre-85 PCB marshalls I had ever needed service, ever.... most of them appeared to have never needed service since they were purchased. Looked factory clean inside, even the one that ahd clearly been dropped repeatedly.

my curiosity is definitely peaked i think i know where my next amp after the deluxe reverb is going

they're getting pricey, dude... sorry

next it'll be 900s...

i hope the 900 doesn't 600 is the perfect price

think more like 800 for a 900 these days.... but good luck getting an 800 for udner 1200 anymore. I bought all of mine for under 700 and sold every one for 1200+... the best one fetched enough to buy a big chunk of a used van for the my old band

oh, I always forget the Silver Jubilee, that's a great amrshall amp, it delivers on the promise of the split channel 800 but doesn't have the pinched and tinny 900 tone. Also Marshall's greatest channel witcher. Don't know if the reissue measures up, but the originals were fabulous. Basis of one of the Slash signatures. The other one's a hotrodded 800 of course.

Yay. 800!

Marshall!

the laney gh50L is a decent budget alternative to a vintage 2204 by the way. Almost the same am but with a passable fx loop and a boost that's an extra gainstage.... the low gain input is is not implemented the same, sounds a bit different but its fully in phase with the high gain input unlike the low input on an 800. Build quality isn't quite as good as an older marshall but the transformers are actually really nice, especially the huge toroidal power transformer. You can usually score a GH50L for about 700 bucks or less. The 100s are more like a grand, but I think 50 is ideal for the working musician when it comes to master volume marshalls, you don't have to choke the tone back so hard on a 50

if money's no object I think the soldano hot rod plus amps are like the pinnacle of the 800, jubilee and 900 style going from 800 medium/high gain to true 80s high gain and on into the over the top territory that would get picked up on by mesa and peavey in the 90s. They're very much in the SLO100 circuit camp but the SLO has really hifi components and a stiff sound, only comes with 6L6es that make it a bit boomy and american and so it sounds less marshally while the hot rods use stuff that's more like whats in a marshall from caps to transformers, can be found with EL34s (and aren't so expensive that you'll be afraid to mod a 6L6 one for EL34s) but generally retain the super tough build quality. I am always flirting with biting the bullet on a hotrod 50+ as my one channel switcher but its pricey. But if you can save up I recommend either a 50 or 100, both sound good great and the master circuitry is really well implemented for both channels to be useful in lots of different size venues.

Oh, speaking of soldano, the clean/crunch channel with 6L6es is very tweed fender.... hmmm, maybe the OP needs a 50+ head? Its what a supersonic or hotrod wishes they could be and the other channel is like master volume Marshall on steroids.

cool!! amps are fun. my favorite "crunch" amp is an orange for sure.

I don't think of oranges as crunchy so much as grindy, they aren't bright enough, a marshall crunches, tis crispy and bright even with the treble and presence down

i dunno, if you run a naturally bright guitar through it, it sounds brighter.

wow, that's like saying water is wet

yes, for my purposes it usually is a brighter guitar. blues, lighter punk, etc. for my Black Flag shit we (my band) run solid-states with pedals.

I don't think I've ever used a solid state amp for guitar.... certainly not for distorted guitar even using pedals. Its just not something I do. My first amp was a Princeton reverb from 64 that I got off my uncle when I got my first strat. No going back. Actually solid state was king at the time and there wasn't a vintage amp market yet, they were just old amps that were only interesting to old guys. Most players only wanted marshall stacks or solid state (because solid state is soooo reliable). You couldn't evn get current production 6V6 tubes at the time to retube your Princeton or deluxe, you know? Theystopped making them around '88 until the mid 90s so my rinceton was pretty worthless in 1990, dude. If a tube died I was FUCKED!

So back to the point, when I say 'orange amps' I mean like an OR80 or a new tube amp like the rockerverb. I don't really count the terrors as the rocker sound as they are just a modified ac15.

and saying bright guitars give more crunch is still like saying water is wet

when I talk about a crunchy amp I mean that it'll crunch with tone rolled halfway down on a neck humbucker of a really warm guitar like a lot of 335s for instance. A JMP superlead will take your head off with brightness on the bright channel.... put the bright cap on a 4 power tube blackface fender and discover the true meaning of the term icepick. Those amps will CRUNCH.... turn em up and all you get is crunch unless you gun the bass and kill the treble

yes. i used the tube at my rich friend's house. we record with tube amp emulators and play live with our solid states. we're saving for a marshall 800 right now.

its sad because tube amps used to be cheap, old technology when I was young... Marshall and mesa was a big deal but until the mid 90s no one wanted a current production tube amp from any other brand including fender... I shit you not! old tube amps? they didn't get expensive until I starting college. And blackface fenders whicha re now insanely expensive for 60s examples cost NOTHING. I paid as little as 300 for some and like I said my 1st one was free, just handed to me like your older brother's pair of levis with a hole in the knee.....

it really bums me out to see a decent tube amp so prohibitively expensive to young bands in these days of affordable and playable guitars

Whenever i go to the local shop the owner talks about back in the day he could get an ac30 piss cheap and now your lucky to find a vintage ac30 under 2 grand

yes it's torture! all i want is some goddamn decent gear and the lowest-priced Marshall tube we could find was $600, and then we went to look at a Boogie, but forget about that.

lucky? you can't get a truly vintage one under 3 grand now.... you can get a 70s one with greenbacks for under 2, sure, but not a JMI. I think I caught the tail end of cheap coppertops 15 years ago when I got my 63