Why Can't I add items without a link?

And consider grouping variants... I can't imagine the Behringer TD-3 and RD-6 being popular in colors other than the original silver or acid yellow...

So how about this - we'll just pick a reasonable GearIQ threshold that shows you are a good citizen of Equipboard, and allow access to the "legacy" add item process. That way, we keep the new way as the preferable method since adding an item via the big music stores gives us a unique identifier (like a UPC or SKU) which helps us internally with data accuracy .... but if you needed to add something more niche/custom, you'll be able to do so the old way.

Sounds good. Although you can still get a lot of unwanted entries from those users (as discussed above).

And consider grouping variants... I can't imagine the Behringer TD-3 and RD-6 being popular in colors other than the original silver or acid yellow...

This is already forbidden.Quote from theContributing Guidelines and FAQ!:

the color of equipment and instruments does not affect sound, so if all that differs is color, please do not submit a new item, but you are welcome to specify the color of a specific item in the submission notes or your review

Concerning to my actual DIY Pedals: Is there a way to add pedals like this?

https://aionfx.com/project/astra-silicon-fuzz/

This isn't a pedal, it's a $12 PCB and a PDF :) ... but I trust you're liking Aion FX's offerings, so let's help them sell some stuff by adding this.

Question: If someone else, besides you, had added this PCB awhile ago, what item image would you hope to find in the database? A picture of the PCB? A generalized AionFX logo graphic? A picture of the pedal wiring diagram from the instruction PDF? A picture of that person's finished pedal?...even tough that pedal may have no outward visual indication that its an Aion Astra Silicon Fuzz... and may be painted in some crazy color you're not fond of?

For the Aion FX products that have full kits available, we can use the black kit body picture, but this one doesn't have a corresponding kit body yet.

Update:

https://equipboard.com/items/drunk-beaver-pedals-jellyfish

https://equipboard.com/items/drunk-beaver-pedals-t-rex

Users with 500 or more GearIQ can now access the manual item add process.

If you don't yet meet the GearIQ requirements, please use this stickied forum thread from here on.

OK that's great, thank you :)

one more thing: Since I've been specifically asked in this thread not to add the Ken Multi MOD-SS, I won't. However will the contributing guidleines be updated so they tell people not to add niche products like this?

one more thing: Since I've been specifically asked in this thread not to add the Ken Multi MOD-SS, I won't. However will the contributing guidleines be updated so they tell people not to add niche products like this?

Good idea, yeah. How would you propose summing up pkennethk's point here? Is the gist of it that if an item only has cosmetic variations from an existing item, and the cosmetic variation is not "special" or notable enough to merit its own reviews, artist usage, etc, that it should not be added?

one more thing: Since I've been specifically asked in this thread not to add the Ken Multi MOD-SS, I won't. However will the contributing guidleines be updated so they tell people not to add niche products like this?

Good idea, yeah. How would you propose summing up pkennethk's point here? Is the gist of it that if an item only has cosmetic variations from an existing item, and the cosmetic variation is not "special" or notable enough to merit its own reviews, artist usage, etc, that it should not be added?

My point was that you didn't add the item when knuschberkeks originally asked, so I was trying to infer from that outcome, along with your previous statements, as to why you didn't want it added. If having 3 different versions of the same pedal from the same factory (Aria AOD-1, Ken Multi MOD-7 and Ken Multi MOD-SS) doesn't impact this new push for improved site quality, then I have no reservations in having all 3 get their own entry in the database.

So, your call. Tell us what is best for the site.

So, your call. Tell us what is best for the site.

Well, I don't want to burden the Equipboard community on deciding what is best for optimizing for search engines! There are tons of ways we can handle that on the backend.

The best thing would be if Equipboard had 'groupings' for items - as has been suggested in this post and several other times - where we could consolidate things on one main item page but still give variants a chance to exist.

Until that happens, I am ok with variants if they are deemed "musically meaningful" by the community. We will hopefully introduce better ways to consolidate/group items soon, and we can deal with hiding items from search engines that have no value in the form of reviews, artist usage, etc.

The best thing would be if Equipboard had 'groupings' for items - as has been suggested in this post and several other times - where we could consolidate things on one main item page but still give variants a chance to exist.

Amen.

Until that happens, I am ok with variants if they are deemed "musically meaningful" by the community. We will hopefully introduce better ways to consolidate/group items soon, and we can deal with hiding items from search engines that have no value in the form of reviews, artist usage, etc.

There is no incentive for users over 500 IQ to stop and get community consent re: musical meaningfulness before adding something they want to add, so they won't. I'm fine with this.

I'm fine with punting on the whole thing until we have the ability to hierarchically group items. You know my long-simmering lust for the ability to structure item families on this site more or less the way Sweetwater and Reverb do.

Sorry but I can‘t agree to this point that you need to have a official reverb item link or a shop link to add a new item.

I suggest to add an item if it’s normally listed at reverb but doesn’t have to have an extra item page.

Agreed

Concerning to my actual DIY Pedals: Is there a way to add pedals like this

I regularly buy PCBs and modify components as needed too

Now I have a problem concerning a diy pedal kit and asking the mods to give me a statement/ solution for my case.

It’s about this guitar pedal:

https://equipboard.com/items/aion-helios

Pedal was originally added by me. There a actual 2 versions: 1. a diy version / PCB only on which I added informations and a photo of my own pedal enclosure design. 2. a fully assembled guitar pedal

As you can see the item https://equipboard.com/items/aion-helios/edit?src=email was edited by an other user in the assumption that it’s related to 2. the fully assembled pedal

So the user overrides my personal photo with the one of the assembled pedal.

My problem is:

• the photo of my personal design enclosure is not shown neither on the general itempage nor my equipment overview - I want my design - no standard photo…
• there should be 2 items - one for the diy pcb kit and one for the normal pedal

How can we deal with that?

This will also be a problem if we have a diy kit which was build by more than 1 user so every user will have to have a photo of their own design.

Will there be a function of equipboard to have a personal photo with some items?

Does any mod please give me a small feedback, please?

Now I have a problem concerning a diy pedal kit and asking the mods to give me a statement/ solution for my case.

It’s about this guitar pedal:

https://equipboard.com/items/aion-helios

Pedal was originally added by me. There a actual 2 versions: 1. a diy version / PCB only on which I added informations and a photo of my own pedal enclosure design. 2. a fully assembled guitar pedal

As you can see the item https://equipboard.com/items/aion-helios/edit?src=email was edited by an other user in the assumption that it’s related to 2. the fully assembled pedal

So the user overrides my personal photo with the one of the assembled pedal.

My problem is:

• the photo of my personal design enclosure is not shown neither on the general itempage nor my equipment overview - I want my design - no standard photo…
• there should be 2 items - one for the diy pcb kit and one for the normal pedal

How can we deal with that?

The assembled unit takes pictoral priority. The PCB photo can be posted secondarily.

Will there be a function of equipboard to have a personal photo with some items?

There already is. This displays after the main product photo on the item page.

But how can I change the personal priority to show the photo of my diy pedal first in my collection/ equipment overview?

But how can I change the personal priority to show the photo of my diy pedal first in my collection/ equipment overview?

Aha. As someone with no gear photos, I do not know how to do that.

Yeah but this is my point. I just want to have the photo of my rat first. But I get the point when some other user wants to see the assembled „normal“ and non-personal pedal.

Does any mod please give me a small feedback, please?

You and I had a conversation about this exact topic last month, in the comments section of one of your duplicate pedal submissions. I gave you a statement on how I feel these matters should be handled for now. You acknowledged you understood the compromise I proposed, but were not going to abide by it, because what was best for you was your top priority, what is best for everyone else is not. I thanked you for at least hearing me out.

Now, what has happened with this Aion pedal is exactly what I proposed: that we should use the manufacturer's supplied image for every DIY pedal kit in which such an image is available.

And now, you're here asking for moderator statement... but you already had one.

You were proceeding as if our conversation didn't happen, so I proceeded for a few days as if this post didn't happen. I think that's fair.

Re: having separate entries for the PCB and full-kit versions of the same pedal, I don't think this is really the issue. I think you're just trying to re-frame the discussion in hopes of getting a different answer. If Equipboard had a feature that allowed you to display images of your (admittedly great) customized pedals in-place of the generalized images everyone else saw on their Equipboard, you wouldn't be here trying to make a case for having separate entries for the PCB-only and full-kit versions of this pedal. If memory serves, weren't these the duplicates you were requesting to merge in your request? Two entries for the same pedal, one that used your image and one that used the full kit image?

Anyway, as I stated in our earlier discussion, I think the feature idea you had is a great one: let users display a custom image of exactly what their version of the product looks like, when that product entry is viewed from that user's Equipboard. This would cut down on people adding entries for different colors of every guitar, speaker, MIDI controller, etc, and encourage everyone to be as invested in how their Equipboard appears as you are.

In the interim, you've got the gear photos section of your own Equipboard to display all your custom pedal work. When you tag those photos as being of a specific pedal kit, then your custom photo will display, alongside the generalized one, when anyone views the entry for that kit. I know this isn't exactly what you want, but it's what we have to work with right now.

Thanks for your extensive and nice reply of which I‘m not happy about - to be honest.

In terms of the Aion pedals (and other) there should be to different options. One for the normal factory pedal and one for the PCB or Kit because these two versions are absolutely different.

So there a several Aion PCB out there but only a couple of them are also sold as manufactured pedal.

So besides my request of having a personal photo of several items I‘m asking to separate the PCB / DIY Kit from the normal pedal.

In terms of the Aion pedals (and other) there should be to different options. One for the normal factory pedal and one for the PCB or Kit because these two versions are absolutely different.

So there a several Aion PCB out there but only a couple of them are also sold as manufactured pedal.

I'm seeing 3 options according to Google and their own website:

• 1. PCB Only
• 2. Full Kit
• 3. Limited run pre-assembled Kits

Am I understanding this correctly?

If you want to treat the limited run pre-assembed offerings and the kits as the same product, so that there are just 2 item entries for the Helios, that's fine, but here are the manufacturer's supplied official photos for those 2 offerings:

https://imgur.com/B8SIrg6

If you post your custom image as the item photo for an "AionFX Helios PCB" entry, and then someone comes along and replaces that photo with the actual picture of the PCB... then what? What do you propose should happen when someone does that?